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Home My WebLink About720656.tiff • WELD COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION Date : January 18 , 1972 Subject : Indianhead Subdivision Applicant : Interladco , Inc . Planning Commission members present at executive meeting: r Philip Bowles , Chairman Glenn Anderosn Donald Clark J . Ben Nix John Watson John Weigand County Commissioners : Glenn Billings y Marshall Anderson Harry Ashley Others : Tom Connell , Asst. County Attorney gr" Glen Paul , Sanitarian Burman Lorenson , Planning Director - Ben Cruce , Coordinator, Regional Planntng. Commissioni; 720656 • - Mr. Bowles : This brings us right up to the hooper-upers in IndianhiIIs . They came in today , they' ve got the letter approved from the Greeley-Loveland Ditch , they got a letter of approval as such , from Farmer' s Ditch , they ' ve given the 50 foot right-of-way , the drainage re- port was approved by the County Engineer, the review by the Loveland-Larimer County , excuse me , the Larimer County Planning Commission was for denial because of location and they question the need in that area , shortening the roads is shown , this was a cul -de-sac item before the Planning , the contract with Little Thompson Valley Water District for domestic service . Now, what did we decide on that today? About the Little Thompson ,they did or did not? Mr. Lorenson : That ' s a final platting item. -- -- ,� '14rmi- Bowles ; n 0 . K There' s a pproximate1y,._1Q ,000 . _ �. _ e;et of road in the original plat,- it ' s unchanged and they re prepared to provide the bond.— Well , 0 . K. � ._-- Mr. IV.i x : Well , I d-ar "htrik `at this 4d:flit ; IIt-at�- -- r. Greele Loveland ' s attorney knows what th_ i 1:7-tome o --tiffs legal irrobiems that the`re :are-'tpt to be iTrvo-Tiled-iIt if — - ___ - - _..- this thing is approved . I cnuld" get in a he11.- gf att a rgvment with"-him about right-cf-w-ay and, surely Dale knows more than to say that they ' ve got to have right-of-way to get along there , it don ' t matter how much room they need to maintain th.i-s_di-tch , if they have to _pile_dirt in order to maintain '.'t this chi toil take "a -. - - dirt , -pile it up 50 feet-' 141z an-, A over on somebody' s property. They still got right-of-way , I think . They were there first , I ' m not an attorney by a long shot , but I think they got a right - - - - . Mr. Connell : True . In a point your right here , • ' M Ben ,--ditches have got , but it ' s by the same token , you know that they are there first , it ' s got to be a right-of-way that isn ' t within reason for the proper maintenance. Their initial right-of-way , even on a footage basis , is for the maintenance (inaudible) . Mr. Nix : Could they for forced to haul this - - Mr. Connell : If it , they could , they could . If, as I say , you' re not all that wrong but only to a point , they can , can be , yeah . I mean , that, that the ditch has a certain priority but a priority only goes so far but it can' t be a detriment , to Mr. Nix : Doesn ' t it stipulate that any given amount of ground necessary for maintenance - - - up-keep? - .. ._ --IC- _-Ca�n2'�'�•: -: Depend-5-,- m0su a�� 3e t r -•-r-- --- _ -have- got and have had specific ease _thzm mea sirr-.e r_# 1r i n- .f atat�,. �m gay"..fcr the EmaLnterraruce". me o_ em -ic k_ y -- _-:_ �a.t-:t.hiy-5- - sha11 have or-:darh side a = tt €itCby _ - - - �_— faet reserved-to mai nta n and care for thy: di t " , and -on - • --_a any o-f'fffem;; yo_u r_e _got _to 1odk e• spectrT-c_-:rzght-- • - �of-tea- that - they have. , .to •tel-1 that they- car, dam`', -they f _ Pr. Nix : Well , Bill didn ' t believe in making any - - -about it , the fence in the cockeyed thing at this - _...-- - - _ ..._.._-_.-- -3�-r-: �o rt n e-T'i �J o x a�- �d a-s--n'�t� _ —'"� "__.--. =- - Mr. Marshall Anderson : - - City of Greeley and the number three ditch . Mr. • Yeah , he ' d better fence it if it ' s in a subdivision . -9- • . . ' 0 .. . - 4 M Mr. Bowles : Well , he says at this point , the ditch - - - . • Mr. Watson : He says - - - - , you can' t force it . Mr. I know, but - -- - Mr. Bowles : At this point , the ditch companys _ not hollering , so we don ' t really have much , we can ' t tell the ditch company what to do . Mr. Nix : I know this is right, but , how' re we going to get , how far are we going to get without some backing on this thing? In trying to stop them. This is the point I ' m trying to get at . Mr. Weigand : Three children down at the Y , the mother- t .anxzous - - -•_ Mr-: Bowl es ` Well , you can say- "You can ' t have _ _. - ;anythr :itah-g the . ri-ver" then, cause- the ' ki ds are gof g -. ---- to go get_ n the river, so you' ve got to have abetter,. 8-0111 ft" 1. 11_ �15"�Y o u c nu-e tfrem°a cr y i.6o -p�1 '' �? ;-you can ' t have thsm along the road , or you can ' t have them . ail'ond—the` rra i l Y•o-ad`track . If you ' re going' to deny it- :.- • _ - __ - a - you `re__ oin to have to have s(rrre. reasons . --9 .... . • Mr . M. Anderson : What does the Greeley-Loveland say? _ , - - - - ..._._.. . _ r__-- Mrs.- Bowles: , Well_, - t�k� re first - ey -ca aut and..sa-i-d .. _ -:: •r..-„_ "t4e.t --theyr-f-e_ hat go1rig to diim- p -wa-st6_-WitiFi aICr'._iittcfi" --'. which is why we really quit them last time , because they came and said they were going to dump waste water into it and Mr. Southard sends a letter that says , "No you ' re not" , so this week they come back and say, "No , we really aren ' t , we ' r;! going to make a flume avid carry it across yuur ditch" -in- -and Greeley-Loveland says , "Well , that' s 0. K. then , we don ' t have any real objections " , so there went the object- ion the Greeley-Loveland Ditch had for the subdivision. Mr. M. Anderson : - - - - this maintenance thing? Mr. Bowles : They say , - - - - all maintained . Mr. Nix : I like Bill Southard , but I think he gave damned poor advice , myself. Mr. Bowles : Well , they' ve got the opportunity to ask for the world and they' re not even asking for any- thing , so - - - . Mr. Billings : Are you still talking about acre lots ? Mr: Bowles: Yes: r ..1 Mr. Lorensorc Yep . Mr. Bowles : One acre lots , septic tanks , dom- - - - stic water. r - Mr. Lorensonr There ' s a thing--ta,note, the -- other day I , Northmoor' s not in this situatian-and _neither is Casa Grande , but when we were down there atarthe Platte- 4( ville plant with RTD , they put out some information that did indicate , and I can only reflect on this , that the en- tire area west of Greeley- between the Poudre and,_the Platte _ that built out where_ Comprehensive Plants:.-and- so _ _ - _._ ' forth , was that putting septic tanks in this area was just a lousy thing to do because you ' re affecting sub - - - - . Mr. Billings : But why? Why are you going to acre lots and letting them put septic tanks , why aren ' t you say- ing half acre lots and make them put in a package sewage _ii _ disposai- plant , utilities underground , asphalt streets , . and curb and gutter? Mr. M. Anderson : in a year or two and then and then we haven ' t got the damned Subdiv- ision Regulations out . Mr. Lorenson : If you go - - - Mr. Billings : What I wanted to know is why the difference? Mr. Lorenson : If you go to a higher density , then you ' re putting a town out there , is essentially the way you ' re doing it. If you take now , their proposal of four units per acre , and they ' ve got a 100 , say, 140, that ' s 600 - - - - Mr. Billings : With half-acre lots o • - you ' re still not putting - - _ - _ Mr. Lorenson : Well ,_ then then you: have to,rezone-, ---- -1 tr and these guys don ' t want to rezone. -v. - Mr. Bowles : I-- thought they hinted - Mr. Lorenson :_ .Well , alright , but did they say half-acre? Mr. That ' s what we told them._ -- -- _Mr. Watson: 114 t- was tile--P-UD--wa-sR-`t_i_t2 - . a _4 Mr. Bowles : Yeah, they want to go on half-acres , they ' re talking , if they want to go that way, higher den- sity , they ' re talking like they would like to have some multi -family and everything else . Mr . Billings : Well , what they actually said when -12- • • J we had a discussion was , that if they could go to half-acre lots , they then would put their utilities underground , put in a package sewer plant , asphalt streets and curb and gut- ter . They told us that in a discussion we had . Mr. Lorenson : Well , you ' re doubling your density, and you ' re doubling the problems of the ability to serve it. If you go for the higher thing , which makes this possible , you ' re creating another town out there and there ' s no town. It ' s not like putting them inside Windsor, well Windsor has their own police department , etc . Yes , increasing the den- sity , does allow them to do a better job. It gives them the economic feasibility , but in the long run , I think too , that the County will come up with more severe problems than at- tempting to serve the area , where there is nothing but County government to serve them. - - i - Mr. Billings : Well , you ' re still - -possibly you' re right Burman , in trying to find some answers., but you' re stilt going to have - you go to acre lots , you ' re ill _going to have same mileage of streets that the County d vn a obligated in , _ -- -- -='-v,ouly way -hatoe prQiomaivrdentai<- fire disndtrihects .County isn ' t obli_ - _ _ _ -. __c ++ _ • Mr . Lorenson : No. Mr. Billings : I kinda think the sooner we get away _from se-pto-e_-t-i-n-ks , -The- !setter- off :ye ' re_sp-i ng to be. -fifr reirson7--ifeTti- we-tiv3trt his =,one_, at what- : .--- --ever density , we ' ll buy Powderhorn , we' ll buy -the best thing money can buy at any location in the County. It deviates back from the statement that was to be used as a guideline from the Planning Commission , which says that we have •'27 seats . Let ' s build and develop around them. Let' s put our -13- our proposal , in these , or put our development in these areas where we can serve it , that - - Mr. Billings : I ' m not trying to deviate from it , Burman , I ' m just trying to solve the problem we might have out there if we ' re going to have to let it go . Mr. Lorenson : Well , I think if we ' re going to have to buy it , there ' s two points of view , depends on how many people you want out there. Mr. Billings : I feel like Ben does , I certainly don ' t want to buy it , but if we haven ' t got any regulations or anything that can stop it , I would , myself, I think I ' d rather see it go on half-acre lots with a package sewer plant . Ben , I mean Glen , what are we talking about in cost if they put a package sewage plant in there and- half-acres , you got 146 acres ,. is it.z htr:- Paul : ftow many? ° F `. 4 F _ Mr. Billings : 128 , multiply that by 2 , 256 homes Mr. Paul : 14-nd what do you figure , ahrut 3.2 per home , is that the National ? Mr. Lorenson : That ' ll do , that ' s close enough . a Mr. Paul --That would be around 80.0 -people, they could get a package- pTan-t Tike Milliken has over there, I -. think you ' d have around $36 ,000 to $38 ,000 . Mr . Lorenson : How do you feel now , Glen , about package plants? • -14- • • .• Mr. Paul : Well , I feel that if you call this a package plant,. the City of Eaton has what we call the ir- rigated lagoon type , the irrigated ditch , and it' s doing a very good job . Milliken has an aeration type of sewer , it' s good but I question up where they' re going to get enough to it , where are they going to get a right-of-way , where they taking effluent, clear down to the , what river is that , Poudre river? Mr. Bowles : why should we let anybody dump ef- fluent into the river? Inaudible . Mr. Billings : They' re going to have to comply • with , number one , the State and Federal law if they are _ - - -_ ..._......�._....,..._ ., .r -:..__. ..tea.-:_— a -�=�.__ .. —_ _ _ _ __ 2 skid t @- - • Mr. Bowles: . -Well ,.__ t_ *see why—we. hz.4 ta_ -.� ��. ..� '...�--=.'Ws�"^.:.._.. �•-.�: ��^=she-• �... �.�'�'--§e�*+v'.n 01Titt trft g- -ectTrroirfiltertf t c at for a � development wofµ that size •=4-nci�_denst-q going there no increased—empT=oyment %n tre_are ,� her�' s no nett' -Indust _ .t1k_i n _ the area, in that _i_m m edi a t e a r e i,- t}-rte.'_s-'4-5o 17u t e 1.y _ othing to justify _going down_ and buildin�� somoth.zn_g _ ..:. dense -in that area . ..,dfl h�rve to d� they say, " Fine, we ' ve got people wha want to move- out- theri - from Denver" , they want to move everywhere and work some- where else, bedroom community ,, you- sa.y_ypu don ' t have -any-- • _,.. _ 4. :If 11O .tfi_Trtg`sloes;-wta_1t arr�f..,se zat is "`" Lundval1 does right across the highway. He ' s already got water lines in there . Fir . Watson : Yeah , but he isn' t even trying to collie trough us . _ - 0 , . . : , . - • Inaudible . - Mr. Watson : I ' d like to know what he ' s waiting for, I ' d like to know. He' s never - - - - Mr. Is that right? He ' s put in a lot of money. Mr. Watson : I sure did . Maybe he' s waiting for this . - Mr. Cruce : The City of Greeley turned him down. on this , he didn ' t officially . ask , but unofficially he in- quired and the policy was , "If you ' re too far out you can ' t get city water" and the city water line cost - - - - . --- - •--- - - -.,14r, _itix.:..:-tie t`;. -ti. :- e t1-} yau- fel-l-ows., t-h- -t-i-44-s- _ =_ _ = ,- -.. e:�ill-T.1.g t-iat ian cerifs ree --�i3 .ism-.wiyc�V4rr p2 cl ^r _ _. . .. _ _ _ _ - - - - - -___ -- - - - - -- - Wit... __R,°.------�= _- - pt�s.ecr �t_.---,- _ -t_Ls :.beca-us_-e -tr a s�-�:-s`hp,A-rtg�of~ x5- - _ — _ =,...::-.............--......„..-- - ----_,....._..4„-_-_-....,,,..._--- - - -_ _ _ _ - _ now, but. wi-thin ten - years time `-there- 1 I be-: some rre-ed- °for - - .-1._.�_---- _- 1-..s- s o r-t ^twi n-e-; =�i_t hw�^ a t 4---h�►-=,F c"- �t "t -t it�`T4 '"_"` ' ..fr._askinc for or, arourd the towns , and we--gotr te -do�:soat!^_i_tig �.-g s t°p -7 t , _thl s k 1-- nd_ o t_-a- ttr--i i �._ Mayes 1: {1- t takelt-itti_At-= t� - I ' m talking---a_b o u t , but I ---s u r e`ab i n-k_I. d a, — . . - - -,,,_-r...,--,-.., - _ _ - Mr. Connell : Also , this item on this one-, you might , here again it ' s going to take some research , we might - h _.a 'resan_iiirre -c.har?-c-i of QPa_ r.c ._u e- _:ft -�h '-t 6e:741 ' - _. - ----. - . . -haste cr-� tttx-s Lloyd "pint rg ' :=s4rtre-t kti-_tfiaft-: _ - - 'got -to- -go to--th• --factors—that:-we ' re- all -tali ng about�ton-TO t; that there is no reason out there . Nothing, you brought it up , to even substantiate the growth in that area in the way of industry , busines - - - - . Mr. Weinand • Wial1 , we figurQ.1 tons tit - - - - -1F- — Mr. Connell : There is nothing in the way of fire protection and these things but what I ' ve been trying to say is this , if you do it has got to be on spec- ifics . There have got to be reasonable factors brought up and used as the basis to stop it . Some of these can be val - idly upheld , some of them we ' ve got some court decisions on , what ever you do before you get it to the Commissioners , we can review those and we ' ll know where they stand , but it cannot be policy. It ' s got to be absolute criteria. Mr. Watson : Would economic justification hold up in court , Tom? Mr. Connell : Not , I don ' t think , here again , I ' ve got to go through , you ' re not going to let something that we _ haven' t haci--come up in that sense ,- andyI ' ve got to go through the cases I don ' t think alone , you ' ve gor-to have , John , , a combination of factors. One is orderly growth, if we had , now I ' m not ? 9 in to `start this , but i e gad a Comprehen- _ sive Plan-,;aid have no problem, under the law , with-- this sort o€ -tiring , because the Statutes specifically refer to a Comprhr-ssstve Plan I know I ' m dreaming , but we ' d be _le- hell of a lot better shape . Mr, M. Anderson: Inaudible : Mr. Connell : But you ' ve got to have , especially _ with one 1-i- tfiis--ialtenvyoa know there 's they' re _ :going to -go- ` Ether-xc r- Ma-ve te--Wave a combination of factors and i tckt-vim gatc.-to .Ixe .reasonable , justifications to deny or turn down that type of development and probably this is as good a place as any to start . It ' s what Phil just mentioned , there ' s absolutely no economic development other and agricultural development in that area . There ' s - 17- • • • • - •. • i • _- absolutely no economic development other than agricultural development in that area . There ' s absolutely no service , not only but economical service other than what • they can put in there , adjoining or close by . Mr. Lorenson : Well , I don ' t know , I ' m getting • the brunt of a lot of the developers and we' re supposed to • have a finished Comprehensive Plan by the end of May and I { • • really don ' t want to face these guys day in and day out be- cause it' s really hell in there , and my voice is beginning to raise and I ' m getting irritated all the time , and as-afar _ as I ' m concerned and the way I 'm processing it and what I 'm telling them, I must as well just buy , eat those regul,ations '... w. and use them everyday until we either get to the point where we' ve got the Comprehensive Plan , : backed by the Subdivision ge u:1_a t�045 -.s n� #�e. n�W 0-.h-TgS7--K0g.'Ca-i ce s__. �1 r t cr :._ _._:.� �paot:��,'veK�=# J +o:9_' o— ufi:Fd' ��hass_ on.g�;•.. s��rr� _ - _. :_ = „�, , T; .= Gu t:_L':•zd.1t. 7-ho - e.nr�_netic_‘ = - - _ - --- _ -' y"•�.. V- •msµ=;�_=T _- - • - - - _ :-: �=dorr-'t lce--fiill. t`#ng-a at_ muc ;, _-. -- -_..._ - _ - _ . I# r - iron�" � 'Le made _ maiarrr. - :. =__ . _. .... i;he—tfle-c t. _ Ie:_ay:at - -�`- ' _.r�._..�•....-• �.:••..r'a'w-.r__ —_ :- ---- -_=_•____.. - - _.wor�T�-d-tii- s==be 4m `tj-- =that -:,mi`�`fi,�u-s�==�e?wi�a-�-�.�.e'.r�-_ta�.�-'= . - __ - -i�_-•�-trggat � , ._•.._��r�'e_:fir:+_ e��inr.�:" £e P�` c�l"3_��u��-�. den on the s-cfiool district? Mr. Bowles : The courts have already ruled that _ s .__.... ttris2.is:=na:�it�l�d=_tia.�'rn�, - — -. _t • __ T. _R_ -_-. - • _ .. -- .... . .. . _M .. ------ - - - - -___ — -•.. .. -... .-may•, - - �• c - - �- -e.7 nay-.' i��ail:�-�i�._ ':�t=r included with , they are still~ impetus to goad arguments , is what I 'm saying . As a County or as a town , if Greeley an- nexed out here , a subdivision , they automatically have got the responsibility and they ' ve got to raise the funds to pro- vide for police protection , fire protection and this type of -18 ~ • - .a . - r think. If we have people move in to the community , we ' ve " got that responsibility. This isn ' t by itself. What Pin saying is , Phil , when you go into the economic areas and these other things , these are factors , nevertheless by theirselves they ' re not criteria. That ' s the reason I said earlier, it takes a combination of criteria that will make sense to the court. O. K. i was just Mr. Bowles : You know - - - this mobile home thing that the courts have already ruled , that the schools` cannot intervene on this basis , that they have to provide - - Mr. Connell : Because cases have been brought, they' ve all been brought singular or most of them, you know, improper, well not singularly in _the sense it' s been police and fire -tn9ether, or --N%ch�el -considerations . As a govern -_ manta-I_ unit-, ,y-ou' ve :gat tile-o-bli_gati-c9Cof supplying that — erv-i£e—to---people- th- live there, but_:they-'ere sti.11 fac-_- -- tors th-at ;_ I think , -a-re- -reasonably -b_roaght in , not to 'stand errs-anl not be a single_ consideration_but_they are- factors 11 _____r_r__ _ The only thing we can do on one like this if you want to ?... x _ _ - - tun it down; is go in and review the law and look at it I from the standpoint of what a similiar situation has been denied-far an it ' s been upheld and attempt , when it gets to the Commissioners , to fit that within their denial because their denial is the one that has to be - - - - , it ' s not the o - -nci --t-jiQ_21a-nn-i-o-q-xommission ; but-theirs has- got to--oor— _ � to whams-yort,-what yaa-ito on a -basis s tifat- you-deny --i t WF="tWiat . eier- - -yttu=aThirave -it, eitirer one`: - - Mr. Nix : Of course , Tom , the easy way out of it , of all of these applications , is to inform these people that they have to meet the specified regulations etc . , and this is any easy Way out for - - - - . • .4 • -• • .a , 4- Mr. Connell : Oh yeah , in that sense , yeah. Mr. Nix : Yeah , but damn it, if you believe in something , then you must have some reason for it . If you' ve got a reason for it, then by God , let' s fight for it. Mr. Connell : I agree , Ben . The only thing I ' m trying to see is both sides , because I ' ve got the responsi- bi1ity them. And in the one instance , our reg- --,- . u1ations say , "if a person comes in , applies , does these • things , provides these things" , he' s complied with that reg- . : -• ulation . On the other hand, the case law says , "that these things have been turned down for these reasons" or that when they' ve been turned down for these reasons , it' s been "- ' overthrown. It goes both ways , and it depends . We may or r --="7-- -:.-..---w---- -- �w - -- - _ - � tft_ - �__:�.�,--� ��-�_ ---• ---- --�o�'�� _��-�...-�O-'�Fs g�r�e-y a, -��to- _ -tease=,-- ti= -�.`�`�`" w--- _ '..--Io=i-�g t"cl�ra-Ve �tii--fie figure--a_ u - `17 a i=-n�eriirr 3erfod -fie �; _____il - .. - -w•+craw- :.-�-. . '� _ _ ..._.- - - it.-------.. .-_--=--- -_- - t w:��: ��'��m�t1��t -_�Ise-_�'t a n n- n_g-=-=Cpinin-i-s s =Q4it a k-e-v.--14 h-a-t�-v a-r - actin -takes -aand-r_t—gets :� - ` tk�nrrss one_r�s-:..- re-� _ - _ - - - _. _. -- - - .. _ -- .--: -:._,...'�..._•. _ T -N-- - _-��.. - --- te..;�:,:'- -_- - _ - - -'-- ' a w�=�t'n s:u c c e ss-i x��•t-_art a��1- -_ - ga _ €. __... _ - ._.. _ -�i -_- _ - _ - - - f} q^ s.. ks- t`a 1 a.� n .. - - - - -•• - -ifs_. - _ ;- . . --:. _ - - _. _ go) ng to "go all the way. _ _. - Ina.u-di ble . _ - . e. ...----.-.----.- --.-...,7` -—"- - - —,1-Luis—n91, --��a L�O4�-flne �?�' - O = - _ .._ �,._,�... - M r~� flat s o- - - - �'.- - --:- .7.-----1--- 72-2--;--"--'- �--:s r^ _ .. - _ -T-a-""-.t.61 L�y� 'r_ 'r •te _ .... ��:.._ _- __-- fir' ikE_ _ -. � - Mr. Bowles : Well , let ' s let Glen continue, I don ' t think he was done with his list. Mr. G. Anderson : Well , I had these other things . -z0- . „ _'y:. '.Y.je'- ,'• 071— _:r l' v,• ,. _ .:` .+:�• ` : .� = r• - "i' �.Y . . • • • down = - - it does not follow orderly growth and it' s not,. • there ' s no immediate employment in the area , it' s not econ- omically feasible . If we list all of those things , if that' s enough , and I ' ll list any more if you want them. Inaudible . Mr. Cruce : On the inability to provide proper public safety , which is required of course - - - - Mr. Connell : This is a combination , yeah_ :- - :;.. Mr. Cruce: This is an item that - - - - . . Mr. Bowles : For that part , that density - Mr. Connell of on h inabil � _ N 1y � e __ i;y but the cc_ _ _ - • ..--=.-,•;;;;%•;. _ -- _ - — • - - - - ta�-tra��tt)"-Ve t _ - _ - - - - rr �_ T"_ --• - � = a�� _ - ate•.��_--A•=•‘• r L - • - _ _ . . _. _Mr. . Connell Conner.:._' Yeah;::.: - •• Mr. G . Anderson : Is there a sufficient amount• • _ _..— — -- -- _r_ _ _. _. _ .. ----- - _'- • -�• _ —?.-ate-?.s'>-� - - �t.�`•�•z - • __ ""�✓w_ ti..� -"".tr_^�=C±a• "'.'�'. • - Mr. G. Anderson : 1-.: move -that `we deny it on those • basis . Mr . Watson : I ' ll second it . I ' m all for it . M;^. �c:•:l es : M (t.•.V�v` frt rnl i r� ,.., -kn f• 4-i F ' �. .r JU.. 1ol l t - cations ( inaudible ) . • • ` - ,_ .i IIP + ;. • • • • Mr. Bawl es : Poll the members of the Commission . • Secretary : Anderson? Yes . Watson? Yes . Clark ? Yes . Nix? Yes . Weigand? Yes . Bowles ? 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