HomeMy WebLinkAbout720658.tiff WELD COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Date : February 22 , 1972
Subject : Indianhead Subdivision
Applicant : Interladco , Inc .
Planning Commission members present :
Philip Bowles , Chairman
Glenn Anderson
Donald Clark
J . Ben Nix
John Watson
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Applicants :
None
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Mr. Lorenson : The County Commissioners , on Ind-
ianhead , I have prepared a list of items that would have to
be considered as a Planned Unit Development for Indianhead.
Before you read this , I want to make a comment one more time .
Regardless of what Mr . Billings has said , about being a good
development out there , I am making a recommendation to the
staff' s position that the less number of people out there ,
regardless of how they develop , is better than the beauti -
ful PUD because I feel less people are going to cause us
less problems later on , and my recommendation is that they
change their plan or their subdivision to meet the require-
ments . Make them talk business there rather than go into
a PUD and increase the density. Increasing the density will
increase the problems as far as I ' m concerned , but follow-
ing instructions , I have prepared the _letter and that' s
what you have before you . (Letter introduced , not on tape) .
Mr. Bowles : Item No . 4 , it ' s obvious - I have
;marked„ in my subdivisions , strictly dummy type recommenda-
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Mr. Lorenson : Well , it' s the type of thing that
everybody seems to be coming up with . It ' s supposed to have
500 feet for a hose line and between anything . Now, the
rural fire trucks , how much hose they got?
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Mr. Bowles : Three to five hundred.
Mr. Lorenson : Well , that ' s the reason is that if
you go five hundred foot covered , you see , you ' re a thous-
and feet either way , if you ' ve got 500 feet of hose, you can
cover any point.
Mr. Bowles : I can go subdivide 2000 feet with one
— fire hydrant , put it right in the middle of a 2000 foot
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- stretch . It Should be , excepting that no structure could
be more than five hundred feet from - - -
Mr . Lorenson : Alright , you ' ve found a situation
where I hadn ' t out guessed you .
Mr. Bowles : It ' s , no in the Subdivision Regula-
tions it contradicts itself , it comes back to the five
hundred , but one section is poorly written and it goes this
thousand feet . I circled that in red .
Mr. Lorenson : 0 . K.
Mr. Watson : In other words , you can , you don ' t
have to have , you can have more distance between hydrants
but not structures .
Mr. Bowles : Yeah , the thousand foot between hyd-
rants would be 0 . K. as long as some smart guy doesn ' t fig-
ure , like you say , he can take one hydrant and serve two
thousand feet and then you 'll be a thousand feet- from ,a
structure which is no good. No rural department can pump
through a thousand foot of hose .
Mr. Lorenson : You take your lagoon area out , for
the sewage system , you ' re average lot size would be a half
acre and that ' s why I put 1 . 5 units per acre gross density ,
and gave them an exact number to work from.
Mr. Bowles : I ' d like it better if you ' d said
that this was requirements for their consideration of a
Planned Unit Development . It almost reads like it is a fore-
gone conclusion . Now I haven ' t voted yet .
Mr. Lorenson : Very good , so instruct me .
Mr. Bowles : You ' re so instructed on my behalf .
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Mr. Watson : Which one are you referring to?
Mr . G. Anderson : Well , up above here too , you can
mention reviewed by the Planning Commission , by the staff?
Mr . Lorenson : No , I really mean reviewed by the
Planning Commission , and that ' s being right now .
Mr . Anderson : Inaudible .
Mr. Lorenson : Well , it hasn ' t been sent to them.
It will be sent to them after you have modified it in any
way you wish.
Mr . Anderson : I was under the impression that it
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Mr. Nix : Glenn , you can tear it all apart .
Mr. Anderson : I ' d agree with Burman , it' s - - -
Mr. Bowles : Seventeen and a half acres for a
school or park site? _ .
Mr. Lorenson : Well , that was land dedication and
it ' s twelve percent.
Mr. Bowles : Is this normal on the other DUDS?
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Mr. Lorenson : No , we ' ve been going on eight per-
cant .
Mr. Bowles : I just asked.
Mr. Watson : Aren ' t they going to criticize the
fact we ' re not following the PUD , Burman?
Mr. Lorenson : The PUD , there ' s a hooker in there ,
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on number seventeen the PUD requires an absolute twenty-
five percent open area . Now , I have indicated that twelve
percent is going to go for a school or park by dedication .
The other thirteen percent comes by some other method .
Mr . Anderson : Not including any roads .
Mr. Lorenson : Not including any roads . And this ,
you see , seventeen is the stiffest requirement in there ,
although it looks pretty innocent.
Mr. Bowles : Now are they going to come up with
the other land?
Mr. Lorenson : Well , they can take and make their
lot sizes smaller and pool them into common open areas .
Per. • apartment house?
Mr. Watson : Sure , they ' re going to have some
multiple family units . They have to have .
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- Mr: Lorenson : Their PUD didn 't show any:
Mr. Watson : It didn ' t it show any?
Mr. Lorenson : No , it didn ' t , it showed single
• family.
Mr. Bowles : Who wants that much togetherness .
If. ,he ' s going to move out of town , why would you move next
door to somebody .
Mr. Nix : I don ' t like any part of any of it ,
Burman .
Mr . Lorenson : I ' d make a motion to the Chairman ,
on what you ' d like me to do .
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Mr . Watson : Recommend to the Board of County Com-
missioners . It ' s going to be discussed tonight , isn ' t it?
Mr . !o renson : Maybe you ' d want to wait before
you took any action until tonight with the County Commission-
ers .
Mr . Bowles : Well now , that we ' ve been reminded ,
that we have no right not to consider the submissions then .
I agree to that .
Mr . Lorenson : We do have one other item from the
Larimer County Planning Commission . Powderhorn .
Mr . Watson : They have asked us to discuss it?
Mr. Lorenson : Well , I thought I ' d give you the
opportunity.
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