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DEC 2 2 1,O°1'/SS • Rec. No. 1 ~'O'6652 Mary Ann Feuerstein, Recorder
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WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on Wednesday, October 28,
1970, at 1:30 P. M. in the chambers of the Board of County Commissioners
of Weld County, Colorado, for the purpose of hearing a petition of
Don Nauman, 1851 26th Avenue Court, Greeley, Colorado, requesting a
D change of zone from "A" Agricultural District to "MH-UD" Mobile Home
Unit Development, and
WHEREAS, the petitioner was present, and
WHEREAS, there was some opposition to the change of zone,
and
WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners heard all the
testimony and statements of those present, and
WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners has studied the
request of the petitioner and studied the recommendations of the Weld
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County Planning Commission, and having been fully informed;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of County
Commissioners, that the petition of Don Nauman, 1851 26th Avenue
Court, Greeley, Colorado, for change of zone from "A" Agricultural
District to "MH-UD" Mobile Home Unit Development, said area being
more particularly described as follows:
Lot Four (4) of the Northwest Quarter of the Northwest
Quarter (NW+NWI) of Section Six (6), Township Five
(5) North, Range Sixty-five (65) West of the 6th P. M. ,
Weld County, Colorado, containing 10 acres, more or
less,
is hereby granted under the conditions following:
1. That any water and sanitation facilities to be installed shall
be approved by the State Health Department.
2. All applicable subdivision regulations, zoning regulations
and mobile home and mobile home park regulations shall be followed
and complied with in accordance with the Zoning Resolution of Weld
County, Colorado.
3. Subject to the approval of the Greeley Planning Commission
of the City of Greeley, Colorado.
Dated this 25th day of November, 1970.
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RECEIPT:
This 27th day of November , 19 70
The Weld County Planning Commission has received the following
from the County Clerk and Clerk to the Board:
Z-163: Don Nauman
Zone Change A to MH-UD
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FINDINGS: Don Naum4IIII Request for Change of Zone .
Novermber 4, 1970 2:00 P. M.
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Mr. Billings: We will call this meeting to order. It was the recommendation
of this Board this morning that the County Engineer with Mr. Don Nauman
to look at the situation with run-off water pursuant to the proposed
rezoning for a mobile home area development. Mr. Ewing do you have
a report?
Mr. Ewing: Yes, the question was as how does the water get to the river?
The answer is it does'not. The water flows from-the northeast corner
of his property where I believe the proposed "B" retaining pond is
it goes north roughly for a quarter of a mile and there is doesn't
go anywhere. The railroad track seem to be a blockade - they are
raised up about 3 feet and that water from that point, after it
reaches the level of the road and go east about a quarter of a mile.
Marshall Anderson: Down the railroad grade?
Mr. Ewing: Beside the railroad grade and there is a low spot
that is down in there that used to be the catch basin for the whole
area. I talked this over with Jerry McRae and it seems to me that
the man has done all he could do as far as his own drainage problems.
We do have a drainage problem in that area which consists of the
whole area. There is no way for it to get to the river. Sometime
or another there is going to have to be something done.
Marshall Anderson: Is it going to create any bigger problem than already
exists?
Mr. Ewing: No, in a matter of fact I think it is going to eliviate
some of it.
Marshall Anderson: Well 1 think that answers the question.
Mr. Billings: Do you have any questions on it Harold?
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Harold Anderson: No I think I have it pretty well pictured.
Mr. Billings: At this time I would either entertain a motion to approve
this change of zone for a mobile home park for Don Nauman or to
reject this application for a change of zone.
Marshall Anderson: I move that this application be granted.
Mr. Billings: I have a motion that this application be granted.
Harold Anderson: I second the motion.
Mr. Billings: I have a second to the application and as Chairman
I will make it unanimous. Let the record show that a motion made
by this Board is an individual vote approving the change of zone.
Is there anything else to come before this Board.
Marshall Anderson: I move that we adjourn.
Mr. Billings: Meeting adjourned.
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BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
WELD COUNTY, COLORADO
MINUTES: November 4, 1970
Don Nauman - Change of Zone Request of October 27, 1970
PRESENT: The Board of County Commissioners
Glenn K. Billings
Harold W. Anderson
Marshall H. Anderson
County Attorney
Samuel S. Telep
County Planner
Burman Lorensen
Applicant
Don Nauman
Jerry McRae, Representative Nelson, Haley, Patterson
and Quirk
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Mr. Billings: We will go back up to Mr. Nauman, I think his representative
from Nelson, Haley, Patterson and Quirk is here.
Mr. McRae: What I was specifically asked to do and I have a preliminary
plan and also a letter report the drainage study on this parcel.
To develop this 10 acre parcel for mobile home development. The
density of 6 units per acre, approximately 60 sites. This report
specifically covers this area, we are bounded on the south by
Second Street, there is an existing irrigation ditch and berm
along that area which will give us protection from any of the
area lying south of this area where the drainage goes. There is
a small amount of area to the west, that probably or perhaps
would drain through the area, however it isn't a great area and
we haven't considered any excess run-off causing any major problem.
What the drainage report has attempted to do as outlined and defined
by other drainage studies is to show that this developer can on his
own site take care of the additional water created by his development.
As a basis of design we have used a 10 year design
storm this amounts to an intensity of 1.8 inches per hour and we
have figured the duration of one hour. This is a 10 year design
storm for this area. The first calculation indicates the quantity
of flow, storm run-off, existing as if that storm would happen
today with no improvements. The second condition is the same site
improved, same storm conditions and shows that the detention ponds
proposed will more than provide for the excess created by the development.
There will still be run-off from the site but it won't be any more
in fact it will be less than is existingly running off under that
storm condition.
These ponds are very economicial for the development
and the ethetics of the area. They are only two feet deep at the
center, fairly flat bottom and a slight slope of 1 to 5, otherwise
in 10 feet we can absorb 2 foot of depression and a 1 to 5 slope is
very easy to grass and maintain and become a useable open space
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Mr. McRae: at the time we aren't under a storm condition.
Harold Anderson: Do I understand you right on this - under this flooding
you have one inch rain in one hour.
Mr. McRae: A 10 year design storm is 1.8 inches almost 2 inches
per hour.
Harold Anderson: For one hour?
Mr. McRae: For one hour duration.
Harold Anderson: Suppose it rains for two hours?
Mr. McRae: If it rained for two hours - we are not talking about
a 10 year design storm, you would be talking about something greater
and I have tried - you have to pick a design storm that is concievable
for the developer to contain. Now every fifty years you will have a
fifty year design storm or on that frequency and at such time there
is going to be additional flooding to all properties in the drainage
basin, there will be damage created and it is just a matter of
to
economics as/how much you can install in a storm drainage improvement
system as compared to the amount of damage you can prevent on that
long a term basis.
I think the City of Greeley's report are varying from
2 years to 5 year design storms. As to what the City is attempting
to accomplish in a master drainage plan and we have gone a step
farther than that in going to a 10 year design storm. The FHA
as we mentioned, requires a 50 year design study on which to base
their evaluation of a subdivision. But they are concerned specifically
with the houses and we can establish foundations, elevations and so
forth that will prevent major damage during a fifty year storm in a
subdivision.
Harold Anderson: Now do I understand this set-up the storm you are talking
about would practically all run-off.
Mr. McRae: No, if a 10 year design storm frequency occured today
on the undeveloped ground there would .03 of an inch per foot of
run-off. Now if this property is developed as proposed with a
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Mr. McRae: with a detention pond as shown we will generate more
run-off with the pavement area. At that time because the detention
ponds absorb and detain this water created, we would only be releasing
.028 acre feet so we are actually _releasing no more under the
developed conditions than we are now. These ponds are sized to
take care of the difference. I think in total we would - a 10
year design storm - create about .073 acre feet. So we are
detaining on the property of this design storm abour .04 of an
acre foot.
Harold Anderson; This pond does not have any drainage is that right?
Mr. McRae: Only on a regulated flow that would detain it and
either - it is proposed to put an overflow so that Pond "A" the
first one - as it fills up there will be pipe connecting the two.
Now this pond won't contain all the water from this area, but the
excess can be detained here along with the area which is that is
contributed to here. At this point there will be a spillway type
of a structure so when it is full it then contributes its .03
of an acre foot that is presently existing. If we had a fifty year
storm the pond would fill up and it would just run over that much
sooner; but there is an existing barrow pit that runs north----
Marshall Anderson: Jerry - there was some discussion on that - the people
in the area said that the barrow pit would not carry that water down
there. Is it that flat?
Mr. McRae: We haven't run a topo survey on that area to the
north - I don't know
Marshall Anderson: So in other words is that pond overflows you will
be dumping out on the street - is that in essence what you are going
to do?
Mr. McRae: We are only comparing it to the existing conditions.
and if a 10 year storm happens today - we are not worsening that
situation. Perhaps there are some improvements that can be made
in improving that barrow pit grade-wise or cleaning it out or
something. I don't know what the gradient is.
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Marshall Anderson: Well now it was brought out in this hearing that
these people's basements fill up with water when there is a big
storm. Now we have a situation like that out in the Ward Subdivision
everytime it rains we hear about it. Are we creating another
problem in that area just one-half a mile east of it. That is
one thing I want to know. You talk about these retaining ponds
and once they fill up and over flow - dump it out on the County
then it is our problem. You already said that this second retaining
pond - that water will run out into the gutter. But I want to know
where that gutter goes to.
Mr. McRae: Well, yes - there is existing drainage of course by
just the land fall from
Marshall Anderson: I am wondering if we are going to run it into the ladies
house just to the north?
Mr. McRae: We are not creating anymore to the situation than exists
now - we are improving it to the extent that on a 10 year frequency
storm we are protecting - we are absoring all the run-off from this
area.
Marshall Anderson: Well I am thinking of a cloud burst or something out there
won't you create a problem for the people in the area? We have let this
Ward Subdivision get away from us and as I understand the water runs
everyplace but where it is suppose to - mostly basements. This is
where it goes and it is pretty hard to correct a drainage thing
if you don't get it done before you get buildings there. We have
one right in the area. I am concerned whether the County is going
to have the expense of going in there and tiling that barrow pit
clear to the river. We will have to take care of that water.
not
Mr. McRae: We have/attempted to improve the drainage condition from
this site north. We have only attempted to show that the improvements
here - the additional drainage that they produce can be retained.
Otherwise this developer hasn't tried to resolve the problem of the
whole drainage basin
Mr. Anderson: I realize that----
Mr. McRae but he is trying not to create anymore. In fact on a
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Mr. McRae: less than 10 year basis he has improved the drainage
situation, because he has provided capacity to absorb up to a
10 year additional run-off.
You talk about a 25 or 50 or 100 year storm as to whether
it is going to cause you any flooding and additional drainange - I
will have to answer you yes it will do it to any existing structure
in town, because there isn't a drainage basin that has been completely
designed on a fifty year design storm basis.
Harold Anderson: On this barrow pit that you intend to dump into - is there
any obstruction further north such a ditch crossing or anything of
that kind. It seems to me like there is something----
Mr. Nauman: Why a - the railroad does cross there. The C & S Track
I don't know if there is an opening under the tracks or not. I don't
know. I know that the barrow pit has been cleaned and apparently
it is used up in there because they have culverted everything to the
two people to the north. They have culverts and apparently it runs
under there. Now I believe it was brought out that the basements,
their basements, get wet when they start irrigating the ground and
raising crops on them. Apparently this is the time when they get
the most moisture and water in the basement, of course this will
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be done away with there will be no more irrigating. The flooding
type irrigation everybody uses and so on.
Harold Anderson: I understood that was their own irrigation - irrigating
the land that they own - that was my understanding of it at the
hearing. What I was wondering over on Twenty-third Avenue
there is a ditch - there is a bridge across a ditch that goes
to the northeast I was wondering if that ditch across Twenty-first
Avenue someplace north of you
Mr. Billings: Isn't that a seep ditch, Harold?
Mr. Anderson: Well, is that Number Three that goes across there.
Marshall Anderson: : That is a half a mile south of there - no that is way
south
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Mr. Billings: The one you are talking about - if I locate the place
right - that would be to the north and to the west.
Marshall Anderson: Burman, have you looked at that out there?
Mr. Lorensen: I have looked at the site but have not looked at the
drainage.
'Jerold Anderson: This ditch goes on northeast.
Mr. Billings: Well that is number three - and that is 3 or 4 blocks
south of where we are talking about.
Harold Anderson: Well it crosses on Twenty-third.
Mr. Billings: How much did you people look into the drainage on
twenty-first and where does it got to - I was wondering when it
comes to the railroad track there
Change Tape
Mr. Lorensen: My opinion is that this is a better situation than now
exists ona 10 year basis. My opinion is that this is a better
situation than now exits. Except for the technical part of the
report which of course should be substantiated wouidIbe acceptable
from the planning standpoint.
Harold Anderson: Would this drainage eventually cross "C" Street?
Mr. Nauman: Where is "C" Street -
Marshall Anderson: Mr. Chairman, lets send our County Engineer out there
and have him look at it. Can you go out thereright away - go out
with Don and report back to us this afternoon.
Mr. Billings: I guess the best way to find out, Burman, -- it goes
north - if I am thinking of the exact area - then you will find
a culvert that goes back west and I think is down to a seep area
there and then automatically feeds to the river. But why don't you
go out, and Don and find out just exactly where and how it gets to
the Poudre River.
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Marshall Anderson: We are having trouble up there with that one on the
corner of Twenty-third Avenue its the same deal over there. It
there fault and our fault because everyone is under water when
it rains. I take a dim view on these trailer courts if this guy
out on First Avenue can contain all his water in his area and we
will be blamed for it in the end. I think due to the cause and to
be fair to everybody I think maybe you can contain the whole thing
Jerry.
Mr. McRae: I don't know if you are referring to the detention
ponds out east - I don't know if that will detain all the water
I don't know what storm design that is based on.
Marshall Anderson: It got to stay in there it sure not going to get
out of there anywhere. We run into so many problems on trailer
courts on this flooding.
Mr. McRae: Of course on the basis of the fact that we have
discussed the westerly drainage basin it is under consideration
that there is a certain amount of legal right for the design storm
or the run-off or irrigation water, waste away through the drainage
accept that as a formal condition.
Marshall Anderson: There is a resolution of the County that you can't
dump water on the County barrow pit either. We don't enforce it
We fight these farmers all the time on it. For the amount of money
lets make sure we at least know what we are talking about. We can
table it until this afternoon. Then you can give us a report
I think you guys , all four of you go out there and look at it.
Mr. Billings: You will be able to definitely establish where the
water is going to?
Marshall Anderson: There are two problems out there right now, one is
a subdivision and the other is the trailer court on the corner and
that fellow was to put a sump in there. I don't know if he ever
did or not. We were accused of letting that go in there by the
people that bought it. It got to be pretty hot around here one day.
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and the County only has about a half dozen pumps and we can't pump
out all these trailer courts when they get flooded. We tried that
We have one down here with a standing order for a 36 inch pump.
Mr. Billings: Mr. Nauman we will finish this agenda. We can get back
to this,this afternoon.
Adjourn
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BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
WELD COUNTY, COLORADO
Present:
The Board of County Commissioners )
Glenn K. Billings )
Harold W. Anderson )
Marshall H. Anderson )
County Attorney ) CHANGE OF ZONE
Samuel S. Telep ) "A" AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT
County Planner ) TO
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Burman Lorensen ) "MH-UD" MOBILE HOME - UNIT
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT
Applicant )
Don Nauman ) OCTOBER 28, 1970
Others Present: )
See attached Attendance Record )
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Mr. Billings: We will call this hearing to order. Pursuant to the
zoning laws of the State of Colorado, a public hearing will be held
in the Office of the Board of County, Commissioners, Weld County,
Colorado, Weld County Court House, Greeley, Colorado, at the time
specified. All persons in any manner interested in the following
proposed Change of Zone are requested to attend and may be heard.
Docket Number 49 - Don Nauman of 1851 Twenty-sixth Avenue Court,
Greeley, Colorado, requesting a Change of Zone from "A" Agriculture
to "MH-UD" Mobile Home Unit Development. Mr. Telep will you make
the record
Mr. Telep: Let the record show that this cause came on for a hearing
this day, October 28, 1970, at 1:30 P. M. in accordance with the petition
as filed by Don Nauman of 1851 Twenty-sixth Avenue Court, Greeley, Colorado
for a request of a Change of Zone from "A" Agricultural District to
"MH-UD" Mobile Home Unit Development.
Let the record further show that this is a request for
rezoning of Lot 4 of the Northwest Quarter of the Northwest Quarter
(NWINW'I) of Section Six (6), Township Five (5) North, Range Sixty
five (65) West of the 6th P. M., Weld County, Colorado, containing
10 acres more or less.
Let the record further show that this request for Change
of Zone was published as is duly required as prescribed by law in the
Greeley Booster, September 25 and October 16, 1970.
Let the record further show that the petitioner Don Nauman
is present.
Let the record further show that there is on file a
recommendation from the Weld County Planning Commission dated
September 9, 1970 recommending favorably as to this Change of Zone.
Mr. Chairman I think we are ready to proceed and to have Mr. Nauman
state why he wants this Change of •Zone.
Change of Zone (Naum ) 2 October 39,1970
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Mr. Billings: Do you want to explain why you want this Change of
Zone.
Mr. Nauman: In proposing the plat we see in the concept of a
mobile home park along the concept of a retirement community.
It seems that we have come up with something new and different
that we are proposing here. We feel that there is a definite.
response in favor of this type of thing. I say retirement or
older person they would like to have this type of development
close to Greeley and the immediate vicinity.
Mr. Telep: Mr. Chairman, let the record show Mr. Nauman is
testifying to an instrument marked as Petitioners Exhibit 1
proporting to be "The Circle Drive Mobile Home Park Official
Unit Development Plan". Thank you.
Mr. Nauman: We feel that this is diffeent in the respect
that it does have green areas surrounding it on all sides
and it has a large park area which will be used as recreation
and maintained as that type of a park area. The lots as in
most cases do not but up against each other and are not lined
out as king pins or something - they all but up against this
area of green here which is a park area - as they show here
they will but up against this green area. The fronts will face
out - the back of the trailer will ---
Marshall Anderson: How wide is the green belt?
Mr. Nauman: It varies from 20 to 35 feet - the outside area is
20 feet. The open spaces constitute a minimum of 60,000 square
feet of open area throughout the park.
Mr. Billings: Who will maintain that green belt area?
Mr. Nauman: It will be up to me - it will be up to the owner.
the owner who will maintain a portion of his own. Probably where
we but up here we will have equipment that can be used probably by
the owner - the mobile home owner themselves - that they can use
and while we are in here mowing and watering - it will be set up
Change of Zone (Nan) 3 • October 28, 1970
Mr. Nauman: - the sprinkler system will be set up so we can catch a lot
of it.
Marshall Anderson: Is that going to be a rental deal?
Mr. Nauman: Yes, it will be a rental.
Mr. Lorensen: Mr. Chairman, on the ownership it states specifically
on the maintenance or the open area - it states specifically that
the Unit Development Plant will be the responsibility of the owner
to take care of it.
Mr. Nauman: In this corner we got set aside quite a space for
mobile camper storage this would be 21st Avenue and this is Second
Street. Use this corner up here for storage of boats, trailer
campers and so forth.
Mr. Billings: What is the density of these, how many per acre?
Mr. Nauman: Approximately 6 per acre.
Mr. Anderson: Are they all 10 or 20 foot wides?
Mr. Nauman: About 50 percent of them are for the double wides.
We have some 57 feet wide - we have one here that is 92 feet wide.
Here is one that is 72 feet wide. They have designed about 50
per cent of them so they will handle the double wides type of
trailer that is what we are after - a more permanent type of
mobile home.
Mr. Billings: Burman what kind of a time limit is there on this?
Mr. Lorensen: There is a development schedule - the development
is indicated here and should be completed within a period of time
not to exceed three years.
Mr. Billings: Total development:
Mr. Lorensen: Yes sir.
Mr. Billings: What have you instructed Mr. Nauman as far as roads?
curb and gutter2
Mr. Lorensen: We have given him an indication on the roads - well
(1) the roads are interior and they are essentially not roads that
are going to be maintained by the County but also we have requested
that they meet City approval. We don't have anything in particular
stated inside of the development plan requiring that - this is the
Change of Zone Neu. , 4 • October 28, 1970
Mr. Lorensen: first one that came through and on sebsequent ones, City approval
of the typical cross section of the street has to be approved by the
City Planning.
Mr. Nauman: We did have the City commissions approval though.
Mr. Lorensen: There was City approval of the Planning Commission - yes
on the total development.
Marshall Anderson: Do the streets correspond with City codes is that what
we are talking about?
Mr. Lorensen: A
Marshall Anderson: or curb and gutter is this all we are talking about?
Mr. Billings: In other words does this mean you will put in curb
and gutter and asphalt streets?
Mr. Nauman: It would probably be continuous - it would be like it
is out here - and I don't know just what there layout is for
drainage on the streets but I believe they are inverted. They
run water to a certain point there and then across the drainage
- this is a high point there - the drainage will start here and
drain down - and this is a 6 inch drainage swale and then it has
to be tiled from here across to the gutter - it goes across there.
There are the small draiange areas on the map but they are hard
to see but it tells wherethe drainage is going.
Mr. Lorensen: There is a statement on the streets and if you wish
I will read it. " All interior streets are to be constructed with
County
asphalt in accordance with the/regulations govering such thoroughfares.
valley
All gutters shall be 3 feet wide concrete/gutters, all walks shall be
5 foot wide asphalt. Indicated street demensions are taken between
sale lines of gutters. Maintenace of all interior streets, gutters,
walks shall be the responsibility of the owner.
Harold Anderson: Now do I understand this right - the drainage will dump
into the barrow pit on Twenty-first Avenue?
Mr. Nauman: Well what doesn't stop in that indented area - that park
area. That happens to be 6 inches lower and most of the run-off
will go into that. It will go into this park area and if there is
an unusual amount it will go into the barrow pit - north.
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Harold Anderson: North on Iwenty-first Avenue.
Mr. Billings: It will run into the river then.
Mr. Nauman: Yes. Nelson, Haley, Patterson and Quirk were the ones
who ran the survey and they found that the whole thing does run into
the river.
Mr. Billings: Do you have any other questions, Marsh?
Mr. Anderson: No.
Mr. Billings: Do you have any other questions, Harold?
Mr. Anderson: No.
Mr. Billings: Burman, do you have any other questions?
Mr. Lorensen: Yes sir, this is a copy of the development plan that
was submitted to the Utilities Board and the Utility Layout which
is shown in various colors has been approved by the Utility Board.
The City Planning Commission has approved it and there is still yet
shortages on it from the Planning Commission requirements that have
not been completed. I will read those. The Unit Development is
intended also to state requirments showing minimum lot requirements,
set-back, and building heights. These have not been listed and this
is the only exception to it that has not been met.
Marshall Anderson: Is there any problem there?
Mr. Lorensen: There is a listing on the sides of all the conditions
that are going to be in force here and we need to know what the
maximum height of the building is - how far the units are going to
have to be apart from each other - that is the zoning tool for
enforcement.
Mr. Billings: This can all be hooked on the City sewer - :direct?
Mr. Lorensen: We have letters from the City on water and on sewer
as commitments or at least the willingness to serve this area.
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Mr. Billings: Do we have anybody here in favor of this?
Mr. Nauman: I didn't come prepared for anything like this.
Mr. Billings: Is there anyone here who would like to say something
in favor of this development? Le the record show that Mr. Nauman
is here representing himself for this request of a Change of Zone.
There is no one else present at this time in favor of the change.
Mr. Telep do you have any questions that you would like to ask
at this time.
Mr. Telep: No sir.
Mr. Billings: At this time I would ask if there is a spokesman from
the group or if each one of you individually present here would
like to make a statement either for or against this Change of Zone
of Mr Nauman's and why. Please state your name and address.
Mr. Olson: I am Oscar Olson and I have an acerage right across
Twenty-first Avenue - across from this 10 acres. I am opposed to
it, because we are composed of small acerages around there and
we would like it left in agriculture, instead of mobile home units.
I really believe that the homes right close to this unit - I think
it will depreciate the value of our property. I know if I wasn4t
living there and went out to look at a home - look for a home right
close to a mobile unit - we are very happy the way we are set up
out there. We are getting real well with our small acerage there
and we want to keep them that way.
Mr. Telep: Mr. Chairman, I think you should acertain how many acres
Mr. Olson has.
Mr. Olson: I have 64 acres.
Mr. Anderson: Is that directly south of those of Briscoe
Mr. Olson: No I am a little to the north and east yet.
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Mr. Lorensen: Here is the property of Mr. Olsons.
Mr. Billings: How long have you lived there, Mr. Olson?
Mr. Olson: I have lived there for better thant 13 years. I bought
this property from Fred Ford at the time I moved down here.
Mr. Billings: Is there any question you would like to ask of Mr. Nauman?
Any particular questions that might concern you other than this being
situated close to your property.
Mr. Olson: Yes I have. Do you mean for this to be just for older
people. You know some of these trailer courts have got to be a
nuisance - people coming in an running over your fences and getting
onto your property maybe feeding your horse or crossing the fence
and getting into trouble and things like that, so I just wonder
how you are going to be set up that way.
Mr. Nauman: Well I think I would go along with you on that. Mobile
home courts that have been developed up to this point is one of the
reasons why I think Mr. Lorensen and the work that they have gone to
of course the County Commissioners have instigated this unit development
situation which is going to correct a lot of the problems they have had
with the mobile home courts such as pastures, posts and those kind of
things. So many people living in a small area. I think this is going
to take care a lot of these problems.
Mr. Olson: This will be totally retirement?
Mr. Nauman: Yes. I shouldn't say retirement because they will be still
working - it will be older people but there are a lot of them that
still work i so they are not actually retired.
Mr. Billings: Basically eliminating the child problem.
Mr. Nauman: Yes, there will be no children under 16.
Mr. Billings: Are there some other questions?
Mr. Olson: No not exactly. Say if I was to sell my place which I am not
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Mr. Olson: thinking of at the present. I really believe this would
depreciate the value of my property because there are people who
won't live where there is a mobile court like that. I would really
like to see it left that way mayseif and I know there are others
around there that would be very happy to be the same way.
Mr. Lorensen: Mr. Olson, are you aware that the zoning immediately
south of you on Mr. Stevens property is a commercial zone?
Mr. Olson: No I didn't.
Mr. Lorensen: He has a right of commercial use on his property
which border you on his land and immediately adjacent to this
mobile home court on the east.
Mr. Olson: I didn't know that - why weren't us neighbors notified
about that before hand so we could be opposed to it?
Audience: That was about 6 years ago.
Mr. Lorensen: In about 1965, I believe, in that neighborhood.
Mr. Olson: Well I was to a meeting on that and I understood that
it was turned down and it would still be agriculture at that time,
so I don't understand why us neighbors wasn't notified about this
before it went into effect.
Mr. Billings: These are some of the inequities that this Board
has corrected and is correcting. I think all of you were notified
of this hearing. We have been doing this on all zoning changes
along with the things I asked before regarding streets, curb
and utilities. In the past some of these problems have developed
and we have no way of answering why you weren't notified of the
decision of five or six years ago. But on any of these decisions
that are made now those that are involved are notified. I couldn't
answer the question about the business zoning on that one piece
of property. As to whether you were notified or not notified.
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Mr. Olson: I think that in a case like that we should be notified.
before this is taken over.
Mr. Billings: This is the policy now, it wasn't the policy in the
past - it is the policy now.
Audience: It was voted down.
Mr. Olson: I think it was voted down onetime.
Mr. Lorensen: Mr. Stevens requested - this is the one where the
trailer is located on? I am guessing it was done in about 1965.
If you want me to get the records I will bring them over.
Mr. Olson: I understood at that time that a small acerage like
that by itself - could not be rezoned by itself - a small piece like
that - so how come that it was?
Mr. Billings: I don't believe there are any regulations like that
in our zoning code that would indicate the size of an acreage
to be rezoned. Maybe we will find out some information on that
and notify you of the decision maybe at a later time. I think at
this time we will need to continue on with this change of zone.
I would like to ask if there are others of you who would like to
ask a question of Mr. Nauman.
Mrs. Coy Glenn: We have five acres north of the trailer of this area.
Mr. Billings: What is your address?
Mrs. Glenn: 137 North Twenty-first Avenue. There is another five
acres between us and the property he is considering upon which we
do have an option with the people that we bought from that they had
promised us that we would have first chance to buy this five acres
at a future date. It was orginally with the ten acres of which we
just bought five. So of course with this other property we are
interested in buying eventually we hope we are
it will be just adjacent to the proposed trailer court. Now he
Change of Zone Nan 10 *October 28, 1970
Mrs. Glenn: mentions run-off water and if it is excessive it will run
on into the ditch and on to the river? We can't even run our irrigation
water for too long a time without having trouble without seepage in the
basement and I don't see where there is adequate facilities provided
to handle this extra run-off.
Marshall Anderson: Is that North on Twenty-first Avenue?
Mrs. Groves: Yes, there is no run-off to the river there at all.
Mrs Glenn: There is no way it can go to the river.
Mrs. Groves: It will go right into our basements.
Marshall Anderson: Is there anyway it can contain a three inch rain?
is there any holding ponds in that sunken area there?
Mr. Nauman: I couldn't tell you Marsh. I thought there would be
a representative from NHPQ,here, but he hasn't shown up. I assume
that was engineered in that light - wasn't it?
Marshall Anderson: We run into these a lot on these trailer courts.
They agree to take care of the water within the area for a three
inch rain.
Mr. Nauman: I believe that is what it is designed for.
Marshall Anderson: They should know. The County has been instructing them
to for
Mr. Nauman: I know it has been discussed.
Marshall Anderson: I have been out to these trailer courts after a big rain
Mr. Lorensen: Mr. Anderson, I do have a statement regarding this utility
plan or part of it is under utilities. It say where possible the site
drainage shall be accomplished by utilizing gutters following the natural
slope of the site, where required a system imploying swales, a catch
basin, and sewer pipe shall be provided. Culverts and siphons shall be
provided where new roadway cross existing ditches. The above water and
sewer lines will conform to applicable regulations governing their
design and their installation. On here they have indicated their
Change of Zoneauman 11, ; October 28, 1970
Mr. Lorensen: storms sewers, they show a 12 inch concrete storm sewer
catch basin. Then they are showing basically their direction
of the flow for the storm drainage.
Mr. Billings: Are there any questions you would like to ask Mr. Nauman?
Mrs. Glenn: Well aside from that no, but I will have to say that
my husband and I are opposed to it. One of the reasons we bought
out there was - not that we have anything against people - but there
is less traffic out there and we enjoy it. This is one of the
attractions - why we invested our money in this and I am sure
that , just like Mr. Olson says, if we would ever want to sell
we would have less of a chance of attracting other people to an
acerage because this is one of the reasons you buy an acerage like
this it is so - because you enjoy this type of area.
Mr. Nauman: Pardon me Mrs. Glenn, I believe when I talked to your
husband he told me you had plans in your area for multiple housing
that you had designed to use the back area and apartment
and the people in the apartments could have a horse out therein that
area
Mrs. Glenn: Well we have had them I don't know if we ever
will. But the five acres we are putting a four-plex on it. But I feel
a four-plex and four families is quite a difference there from 60 families
on 10 acres. I mean there is just more traffic, more going on, it is just
not as peaceful and this is what we enjoy about where we live the quietness
of it.
Mr. Nauman: I was under the impression of it the way it was described
to me. You were going to put in a series of these four-plexes and then
the balance in the back would be used for the pastures for horses.
Mrs. Glenn: No, as far as that goes I am sure we will never have the
money to build a four-plex.
Mr. Nauman: Well you mentioned that fact
Mrs. Glenn: The only plans we have our in the hopes tha.tl sometime we
can buy this
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Mrs. Corbin: I am concerned about the drainage. If they drain onto
Twenty-first Avenue. We have basement trouble anyway - once they
are steady we won't be able to control them.
Mr. Nauman:- I might add one thing - the gentlemen I talked to
I forget his name, it is on here, Mr. Gibbs - who was directly
to the west of the property - joins it on the west - said that
he was glad to see it the fact that tiling this ditch he felt
that you would have less water in your basement because when this
ditch here was tiled - it reduced the amount of water that he had
in his basement.
Mr. Corbin: You would tile this?
Mr. Nauman: Yes.
Mr. Corbin: Clear down along the river? So it would go to the
river?
big
Mr. Nauman: Oh no it would be tiled - the/ditch that runs along
south
the/portion at the top.
Mrs. Corbin: You said the drainage on Twenty-first Avenue.
Mr. Nauman: Well frankly the gutter runs on through what run off
there would be is going to be in this lower area here. So we will
drainage
have what they call a sump area or a/swale in the center of the court.
The water is going in there.
Mrs Corbin: You don't think there will be much drainage off of
Twenty-first Avenue?
Mr. Nauman: Only in exceptional cases - if we had a bad storm
or something - a cloud burst.
Mrs. Corbin: We sure don't want our basements wet.
Mr. Billings: I want to ask the question - it seems as though drainage
is one of the problems that is concerning you people and if the
drainage problem as decided by this Board - the drainage problem
is taken care of so that there would be no adverse problems in your
area. Would this pretty much solve your concern as far as drainage?
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Mrs: Corbin: Well that is my main concern, of course, I am not
speaking for the rest of them.
Mr. Billings: I am sure that if it hasn't been provided in this
for adequate drainage that it is one of the things we will be
looking for to be sure there is adequate drainage, to be sure
there is adequate 'drainage.
I think we are also caught in a growth period right
now in all the areas surrounding Greeley. We have and you might
say in the process of requiring restrictions that have never been
before required and protecting property owners who are in these
areas. Years ago a subdivider could have come in and he wouldn't
have been required to put in curb and gutter or asphalt streets
or certain requirements for utilities. The County Planner gave a
report of a Utility Board which we have now, it is composed of our
Planner, our County Engineer and Executive members of the utilities
electrical, gas and water - so that we know that where provisions
are being made in any of these subdivisions to protect the people
in the area. At this point I can't think of any provisions that
we are not requiring these people to make in order to protect the
people in the area. Just where we located these different changes
of zone whether it be a mobile home park or a subdivision, we
are requiring the standards to be excellent, as compared to what
you have seen in the past. In cases such as this one or in other
cases where there could possibly be a development that did not
meet the requirements as far as utilities, curb,gutter and streets
we are requiring these people to post a bond or deposit the cash
in the bank so we the guarantee is there.
You can drive around the different areas of Greeley
so of them you could name, but I would rather not at this time,
where the development has been very poor and it not very nice
to be in and not to the advantage of the people in the area.
We have tried and I think we have regulations now
that pretty well protect the people in the area. In other words
a development like this and if the /conditions weren't right
Change of Zone ,man .14 • October 28, 1970
and the sewer and water condtions weren't right. If there was
anything our County Engineer and our County Planner or Utility
Board would come up that didn't meet the rind requirements
at this hearing we would definitely know about. it.
It there are others of you back there who would like to
make some statements about this.
Wayne Tegtmeir: I am Wayne Tegtmeir and Fidal Robal and I are
engaged in contracting.
Mr. Billings: What is your address?
Mr. Tegtmeir: I live on 16th Avenue Court - 134. We just put money
down on 2 lots on Twentieth Avenue Court then we have these duplexes
under construction on Twenty-first now. This is southeast of his
point and we have the lot on the corner we are building speculation
houses in there. I think in the past it has proven that a trailer
court will devalue your property, make it harder to sell new houses
or whatever. I am opposed to it.
Mr. Nauman: With respect to them - the Spitlers that were building
they are building on the old Andy Epple property - quite a bit to
the east, but they both made the statement , they were building
before this project - directly across the street south of the
Sun Valley Mobile Home Court. He made a statement at that time
that the houses were selling as fast as they could build them.
and it didn't interfere with the price of them at all.
They have made such drastic changes in mobile homes
today coming up with really nice mobile homes, they are beautiful
they are just not all white metal, they are using the same siding
they are using in the more expensive home, you might say. They are
in different colors they are not just white. They vary in colors.
Another feature of this we have already had a bid from the light
company there won't be any poles all wiring will be underground.
Each lot will have the yard lights out on the street.
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Mr.Roybal: Don, I would like to say none of the Spitlers live
there anymore.
Mr. Nauman: I realize that, but they did build the homes
Mr. Roybal: But didn't they move right out?
Mr. Nauman: They just build the home and move; that of course is
part of their business - they build a home and sell it and build
another one and sell the one they are in and move to the next one.
Mr. Teqtmeir: I might add another thing to this I bought one of
Spitlers homes we are talking about, I know Clayton and Eleanor
very well. I paid $15,000 for a two bedroom house where in
Broadview the same house was over $20,000 and it is because
they can not get a better price down there - the trailer courts.
Mr. Nauman: When did you buy your home?
Mr. Teqtmeir: Thirteen months ago.
Mr. Nauman: Its an all frame.
Mr. Teqtmeir: No, its brick in front, full basement, two car
garage, two bedroom home. The same thing in a full brick
across from the park on Twenty-eighth Avenue was $14,950.
My brother bought one from Wheeler for $18,950.
Mr. Billings: The price of homes at any certain time under different
circumstances would not have any effect on this. Is there anyone
else who would like to ask any questions'. of Mr Nauman or make any
statements.
Mrs. Glenn: You don't feel that if you had a trailer court across
from your home that it would depreciate anyway whatsoever?
Mr. Billings: Let say I would be more qualified to answer that if it would
the requirements that we require on such a development like this - if
there was any devaluation - there would be less devaluation than a
year ago. Being able to say it it would devalue my own I really couldn't
Change of Zone man 1'6• • October 28, 1970
Mr. Billings: say if it would or not. There are areas where these park
are located similiar to what we are requiring now, there are states
where there are very expensive homes right around such parks. Wfiether
it would necessarily effect your property- it could very possibly
if other developers came in similar to this - it could very well
increase the value of your property. We almost have to base this
on supply and demand I think in order to be able to say this would
decrease the value of your property or increase it.
Mr. Nauman: I would like to state that I believe that her value -
most of these properties - the value is in the acerage not in the
improvements. I believe under the circumstances it would enhance
the value with the possibility of developing anything of this nature.
Modular, homes - where you use it in the same manner almost. I believe
it would almost enhance the value of the property.
Iris Groves: I am Iris Groves and I represent my husband and myself.
We live at 134 North Twenty-third Avenue and that is why we bought
it we wanted ground around us so we didn't have anyone right up
against our property. We are not opposed to mobile homes, in fact
we went through the Planning Commission trying to get ours onto a
piece of ground and we like mobile homes real well. In fact we liked
it better than the house we are in.
Mr. Billings: How big an acerage do you have?
Mrs.Groves: We have ten acres. The nice mobile homes are well built.
It is better than the house we are in now. This will put this in our
back yard and we would like a little privacy. That is mostly why we
are opposed to it. Not because it is mobile homes.
Mr. Nauman: That is north of the present mobile home court?
Mrs. Groves: Yes.
Mr. Billings: Is there anyone else who would like to make a statement?
Mrs. Glenn: I was just going to make the comment, that when we bought
this place, course you realize there was one mobile home developed there
and this is really enough,
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Mrs. Glenn: There are just a lot of families in a small area. To add
another mobile home there in the same area just within a small
distance of each other is just going to make it- twice as many
or even more than that many people , homes, cars and all this
in one spot. I feel - I don't see where this mobile home unit
is going to help my property in any way because as we all stated
earlier. We had to pay more money for our acerages - if we take
our houses and set them on a lot in town - we probably would have
only paid one-third or one-half the price we paid for them with
an acerage. Maybe the land isn't worth much but when you go to
buy an acerage you have to pay a fantastic price for that few
acres that you buy for your privacy and you pay highly and dearly
for this privacy. Then to move something in like this is just
ridiculous.
Mr. Billings: Is there anyone else?
Mr. Olson: I agree with Mrs. Glenn on that privacy part; when we
bought out there - we orginally bought this to be out away from
town where we were away from traffic. We wouldn't have other homes
against ours and that is the main reason we moved out there to be
out there by ourselves with these other acerages, that is all there
was out there. We bought it that way and we would like to keep it
that way. We sure wish you would kind of consider this, give it
due consideration.
Mr. Billings: In answer to your question, Mr. Olson, about the
Change of Zone on that other property, it was approved December 16, 1964.
This was done by a previous Board of County Commissioners, none of
them are present at this time. In looking through here there is a
list of letters that was sent to all the property owners in the
area at that time.
Audience Discussion
Mr. Billings: There is a letter here returned that you did receive
notification. It is something that was done on December 16, 1964.
It was signed and dated January 6, 1965
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Mrs. Groves: It that where the mobile home has been moved in recently
Mr. Lorensen: Yes it is.
Mrs. Groves: How did they get a permit to move in there? Do they have
a permit?
Mr. Lorensen: Yes they do have a permit. The permit was granted
I believe on the advice of the County Attorney. It states in our
regulation that a Commercial use has the right to protect any
improvements on the ground and since that was a "C" zone it was
granted.
Mrs. Glen: Then if you were just out in the country someplace you
can not put a trailer house on it?
Mr. Telep: No that is a different question altogether. This is a
particular problem not necessarily improvements - there are improvement
than that
Mr. Lorensen: Property.
Mrs. Glen: in other words a trailer house is put there to protect
the property.
Mr. Telep: What ever it might be - whatever a man would have to protect.
As a matterof law - we have to change our zoning resolutions.
Mrs. Glen: Well this house that is on there
Marshall Anderson: Is there a court ruling on that, Sam?
Mrs. Glenn: There is a house there already. The trailer house
is put there so the family can protect the property is this what
it is considered? I mean there is already a house there about
20 feet from the trailer house.
Mr. Telep: I don't know what is on there. I know as a matter of
law a trailer is permissible on there. This question is not before
the Board now.
Mrs. Glen: No but it is questionable because there is
Mr. Billings: Well where it becomes a matter of law it is something
out of our jurisdiction and it is permissible under that type of zone.
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Audience: Can they move more than one type
Mr. Billings: No. Is there anyone else
Mrs. Glen: Well I feel that too you should take into consideration
the fact that this property is used for commercial purposes again
else
it is going to be something/that will deteriorate from the value
of our property. So more than ever here is reason why we should
not have another mobile unit in there. You've got a mobile unit
you have commercial property now you have another one - lets get
something in there that is going to help our property instead of
a third item, because we have our money and our lifesaving and work
the same as you do on your home. We would like to keep the value
of our up. This acerage and the way it is part of the attraction
to it. I am not putting in the fact that he said, as far as, I
took him to say as far as the buildings that are on it aren't a
big thing.
Mr. Nauman: No I am sorry but I didn't mean to leave that impression
but what I am saying is the reason you paid so much
Mrs. Glen: is for the land.
Mr. Nauman: I am not trying to run down your property but I was speaking
in general - of the land in the area. Its value in fact is that it
is land. The thought that you folks have of building a four-plex
or multiple housing this could happen on this at the same time.
Someone could take it over and build some of those 12 foot like
behind Albertsons and then you would have a traffic problem, because
they can build them 12 of them in an area one-tenth the size of this.
Mrs. Glen: Well we wouldn't have a chance to voice our opinion?
Or be able to protest this?
Mr. Nauman: You never had a chance before and it came awful close
to it.
Mr. Glen: Well we aren't interested and don't plan to
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Mr. Billings: Is there anyone else who hasn't spoken on this?
At this time I would ask how many people in the room who are
against the approval of this Chang of Zone? Raise your hands
please. Let the record show that there are 6 people who are
against this Change of Zone. There are 2 people who did not
raise their hands - I would ask at this time how they feel
would you tell us why you are for it.
Mr. Ted Burrous: I live right across the street from it and I think
it is a darn good deal. I have 10 acres
Mr. Billings: Thank you,
Mrs. Buckling I am Nora Bucklin and I a mobile-home will look good
in there it will look a lot better than that weed patch and those
trees that are there. It needs a little improvement.
Mr. Billings: How much land do you have?
Mrs. Buckling I own two houses I have sold all my lots.
the approval of
Mr. Billings: You feel that/a change of zone here will will
detract from the property?
Mrs. Buckling No I don't if it is just for retirment people.
I know those double wide homes look nice.
Mr. Billings: Mr. Burrous do think this would detract from the property
-mc you own or devalue it?
Mr. Burrous: No, I think it would be a darn good idea.
Mr. Billings: I think we have pretty much covered all the discussion
on this. Mr. Burrous I forgot to ask both of you how long have you
lived there?
Mr. Burrous; Since '34
Mrs. Buckling Since 1961 I have lived there.
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Mr. Billings: I believe we have pretty well covered the discussion on
this. I know most of you are concerned with drainage. Mr. Lorensen
will you check it out the drainage on this and report to us what will
happen to the drainage on Twenty-first Avenue - if there is any?
You will probably have to check this out with Nelson, Haley, Patterson
and Quirk. See how much water this would handle under adverse conditions.
At this time I would entertain a motion of the Board.
Marshall Anderson: Mr. Chairman, I move that we take this under advisement.
Mr. Billings: I have a motion that we take this under advisement until
we receive further information.
Harold Anderson: I will second it.
Mr. Billings: I have a second, and as Chairman of this Board I will make
it unanimous. Let the record show the motion and the unanimous vote by
the Board is also an individual vote of each one of the members of this
Board. We will call this meeting adjourned.
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October 28, 1970
I hereby certify that on this date pursuant to a notice dated
September 23, 1970, duly published September 25 and October 16, a public
hearing was had on an application as requested by Don Nauman for a Change of
Zone. The evidence presented was taken under advisement and the decision
will be made at a later 9 date.
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PETITION SUPPORTING REZONING_
Poard of County Commissioners of Weld County, Colorado
Court House
Greeley, Colorado
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Gentlemen:
We, the undersigned owners of property located within 500 feet of the"property described
in the 'rezoning application submitted by Don Nauman , hereby petition you
to grant this rezoning request and to change the Zoning District Map so that the property
involved shall be rezoned from A -- Zoning District to R-5 it 14 M}
Zoning District.
Signatu/re p Maili� Address Description of Property:
Bill Stevens /1L l-C ��t -P-tiu�t•44
1h09 16 Ave. Greeley, W z L. h. NE 4 6-5-65
Mr. Ben Cruce
E I L. h NE 4 6-5-65
Coy R. Glen
137 N 21st Ave. N z L. 1 NW4 of NW4 6-5-65
Keith Vaughn
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r' f 7/ �l. r` 800 Lincoln St. Longmont, S I L4 NW* of NW 6-565
Alex Weigle �
140 23rd Ave. Greeley,
Richard W. Marilyn Jane Jensen
�tT rau , a/e7,24A 2203 St. Greeley, ° Pt of The El of Lot 3s T4 of NW4
Daniel Gibbs 6-5-65
ti)��.22 2201 2nd St. Pt. of Ez of L 3 NW* of NW* 6,5-65
Don Moore
��16Z, ce_i 2200 2nd St.
Mrs D. E. Bucklen
4 :+ % L. aj1 IA t. G 214 21st Ave.
Oscar Olson
132 N 21st. Ave. Lot 3 NE4 of NW* 6-5-65
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NAMES OF OWNERS OF PROPERTY WITHIN 500 FEET
NAME MAILING ADDRESS
Theo J. and Hattie Burrows
316 21st. Ave. Lot ]: SW4 of NW4 6-5-65
Fidel Roybarl
218 21St. Ave.
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NOTICE
Pursuant to the zoning laws of the State of Colorado, a public hearing
will be held in the office of the Board of County Commissioners of Weld
County, Colorado, Weld County Court House, Greeley, Colorado, at the time
specified. All persons in any manner interested in the following proposed
Change of Zone are requested to attend and may be heard.
Docket No. 49 Don Nauman
1851 - 26th Avenue Court
Greeley, Colorado
Date: October 28, 1970
Time: 1 :30 o'clock P. M.
Request: Change of Zone from "A" Agricultural District to "MH-UD"
Mobile Home Unit Development
Lot Four (4) of the Northwest-Quarter of the Northwest-Quarter (NWINWk)
of Section Six (6) Township Five (5) North, Range Sixty-five (65) West
of the 6th P. M. , Weld County, Colorado containing 10 acres, more or less.
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
WELD COUNTY, COLORADO
BY: ANN SPOMER
COUNTY CLERK AND RECORDER AND
CLERK TO THE BOARD
DATED: SEPTEMBER 23, 1970
PUBLISH: The Greeley Booster
September 25 and October 16
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BEFORE THE WELD COUNTY, COLORADO PLANNING COMMISSION
RESOLUTION OF RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Case No. Z=161 Date 9/9/70
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APPLICATION OF .._....on..Nauman
Address 18.51..26th..Ave.. ..Ct.,_.Greeley
Moved by Philip Bowles that the following resolution be introduced for pas-
sage by the Weld County Planning Commission:
Be it Resolved by the Weld County Planning Commission that the application
for rezoning from ..ns!!. ( Agriculture District to "MB-U" Mobile home Unit Devel
Dtikr p) of Circle Drive Mobile Home. xi Park ment
covering the following described property in Weld County, Colorado, to-wit:
Lot Four (4) of the Northwest-Quarter of the Northwest Quarter (NW*-NWj4
of Section Six (6) Township Five (5) North, Range Sixty-five (65) West of
the 6th P. M., Weld County, Colorado containing 10 acres m/1
See attached zone map and Unit Development
be recommended (favorably) to the Board of County Commissioners
for the following reasons: Approved by the City Planning Commission, approved
by the Utilities Coordinating Board, rezoning would be compatable with the
existing zoning and land use. The Unit Development meets requirements with
exceptions of stating or showing minimum lot requirements, set-backs and building
heighths.
Motion seconded by Glen Anderson
Vote:
For Passage: Glen Anderson Against Passage: - .. . ..-Adam..LePore
Leonard Baz'tels. ._. ... .... .
Philip...bowles
Ronald Heitman
The Chairman declared the Resolution passed and cordered that a certified copy be forwarded
with the file of this case to the Board of County Commissioners for further proceedings.
PC-Z-005
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CERTIFICATION OF COPY
I, Dorothy Hill , Recording Secretary of Weld County Planning
Commission, do hereby certify that the above and foregoing Resolution is a true
copy of Resolution of Planning Commission of Weld County, Colorado, adopted on
Sept 8, 1970 , and recorded in Book No. III , Page No. , of the
proceedings of said Planning Commission.
Dated this 9th day of Sept. , 19 70.
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Recording Secretary, Weld County Planning Commission
PC-Z-006
RECORDING DATA - MAPS I PLAID x u
NAME OF SUBDIVISION Don Nauman Rezoning Request NO Z163 ———Don Nauman
NAME OF SUBDIVIDER
LOrATION OF SUBDIVISION L4NW4NW4 S6 T5N R66W 6PM ---
DEC 2 2 1976 BOOK 785 RECEPTION # 1706653
DATE OF RECORDING, __
MARY ANN FEUERSTEIN
WELD COUN Y CLERK AND RECORDER
BY: 2/4; %C/J7 '
DEPUTY COUNTY CLERK b RECORDER
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NELSON. HALEY, PATTERSON AND QUIRK, INC.
CONSULTANTS
2021 CLUBHOUSE DRIVE GREELEY, COLORADO 60631 PHONE 303: 353-6244
November 4, 1970 Project No. 70-11-132
To Whom It May Concern:
We have been requested by Don Nauman to prepare a drainage study for the pro-
posed Circle Drive Mobile Home Park located in Lot 4 of the Northwest Quarter
of the Northwest Quarter of Section 6, Township 5 North, Range 65 West of the
Sixth Principal Meridian, Weld County, Colorado according to the Subdivision of
Lands by the Union Colony of Colorado.
The site has a total of 10.0 acres and has a proposed capacity of 60 units.
The entire area falls from the Southwest to the Northeast Corner at a slope of
approximately 0.5 percent. The site is bounded on the South by an existing
irrigation ditch and berm, on the West by an existing mobile home park, and on
the East by 21st Avenue. Off site storm water can enter the park only from the
West, and this should be a minimum amount and will not have a major effect on
the area. Therefore, we have considered only the area within the site in the
following calculations.
As shown on the Exhibit, there are two on-site retention ponds planned to con-
tain the storm water generated from the proposed improvements. These ponds have
been sized to hold the amounts of runoff as shown on the Exhibit.
We have used the following criteria to obtain the amount of runoff water concen-
trated at the Northeast Corner of this subdivision:
(a) Q = C.I.A.
Q = Cubic Feet Per Second
*C = Runoff Coefficient = 0.5
**I = Rainfall Intensity = 1 .8011/hour
A = Area (Shown on Exhibit)
*Because of the large open areas and the nature of the proposed
development, we have determined a runoff coefficient of 0.5. This
is the same as FHA requires for residential development.
**This study is based upon a 10 year storm. We acknowledge the
possibility that a storm may occur at any time with an intensity
and/or duration that could cause greater storm water runoff than
considered in this report. This flooding would occur whether or
not the mobile have park is developed.
(b) Q x 448.8 = Gallons Per Minute
Gal/Min x 8.02 = Cubic Feet Per Hour o moo
Cu.Ft./Hr 43560 = Acre Feet Cr,4nvrY o� WELD
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of Cuuiity Commissioners
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CNIIGVY rLrQx AND'RECODP't
OFFICES IN GREELEY AND GRAND JUNCTION, COL +: eNWtY
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The total area now contributes 0.30 acre feet of storm water runoff as calcu-
lated from the following:
Q = 10.0 Acres x 0.2 Coefficient x 1.80" Intensity = 3.6 cfs
where 0.2 coefficient is for an unimproved area.
3.6 cfs x 448.8 = 1615.7 gpm
1615.7 gpm x 8.02 = 12957.8 cf/hr
12957.8 t 43560 = 0.30 Acre Feet
Under the proposed development, the storm water generated is as follows:
Area No. 1
Q = 3.7 Acres x 0.5 Coefficient x 1 .80". Intensity = 3.33 cfs
3.33 cfs x 448.8 = 1494. 50 gal/min
1494.50 gpm x 8.02 = 11985.92 cu.ft./hr.
11985.92 t 43560 = 0.275 Acre Feet
Retention Pond A has been sized to contain 0.14 acre feet of the
storm water runoff from Area No. 1 leaving 0.135 acre feet or 1 .63
cfs running in a 12 inch pipe at a minimum slope of 0.25 percent to
Retention Pond B.
Area No. 2
Q = 5.5 Acres x 0.5 Coefficient x 1 .80" Intensity = 4.95 cfs
4.95 cfs x 448.8 = 2221.56 gal/min
2221 .56 gpm x 8.02 = 17816.9 cu.ft./hr.
17816.9 t 43560 = 0.41 Acre Feet
Retention Pond B has been sized to contain 0.26 acre feet of the stone
water runoff.
Entering Pond B is the 0.41 acre feet from Area No. 2 and the 0.135 acre feet excess
from Pond A, for a total contribution of 0.545 acre feet. The excess runoff from
Pond B at the Northeast Corner of the property which runs Northerly along 21st
Avenue is 0.285 acre feet. This is less than the 0.30 acre feet now calculated
as runoff during a 10 year stone.
Therefore, it is our conclusion that with the installation of the retention ponds
as outlined above, along with the development of this mobile home park, there will
be less storm water r ff during a 10 year design storm than from the property
as presently exi M `
�r vSURf PI I Very truly yours,
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NE ON, HALEY, PATTERSON and QUIRK, INC.
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