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Home My WebLink About710582.tiff • • - • • Weld County Utilities Coordinating Board Date : December 9 , 1971 Subject : Indianhead Subdivision • Applicants : Interladco , Inc . Utility Board Members : Lovilo Fagan , Chairman • Jack Bevan • • Myron Mauldin • Lyle Anderson • Paul Brown • • Byron Ewing • • Ed Kelly . . • . ...... -. . u-rma n Loren s •�7an�n g �rector• _�v��-�.: - Larry-5impsQn �'i�rt-ff n COI fater�C-an'servancy -" ....... __" -..1--c-.. •'• ..r +-- '�' "� - _ �...�ar^r'-.mac.: -'_�>•-ar•arc k [fey e C h--ef • eme of ^�� -•..-..._:.:-.-_ .w. --- X47 i'•:.,n.Y _ _ "'_ •..:._:..-" '�` ,,,., ar, _."r_ y - ._..•- • - • • r.. 710582 • • ; .. .. -``Y.t. • ,rJ r}rr. •• { :; .i•; •� • • • • Lovilo Fagan : Dave , do you represent this Interladco thing? Dave Shupe : Yes . Mr. Fagan : Do you want to start on that? Mr. Shupe : It lies , it ' s about 22 miles or 2 miles east of Kelim right on Highway 34. Just to get you oriented , Highway 34 runs along there. ;. • Mr. Fagan : Is this Sinclair Oil .Company? Mr. Shupe : Yes , right , that' s that oil com— pany substation , or valve. • Byron . Ewing:__ .:...._ __._ _ —�_--fir• g @ S�-E474 t-h tt•• h5Cl •C-L-n-'mil _ _.r �y....�...w....::-r-a--.•r,—,�+iF.__`.— =.-'�-3: t -' - .'.'_�."�.`-��....'Ts _._...._,. .,., ..o.ar.}a r-"f^g4t`'t f:�'y _--..--- --� - r •+..• __-�,T.ai_� .�s..... ,......v*r.. =T-a� " -rte —_�� T;x., ..r.;, 7-7.-- company come out and stake it in the field so this- is loc- ated according to their stakes , what they say the line is. • • �f j aue ravi ded here-, at tie;r_egures of the e_] ect aT - _ __ • - -- =--• w • Myron Mauldin : Right , anywhere easement con- flict . • Mr. Shupe : Any place where that - - - -1 Mr. Mauldin : Gas line and ditch company here have prior rights . Mr. Shupe : Yes , and we have provided - - - Mr. Mauldin : You have requested additional outside the existing easements so we can avoid conflict . Burman Lorenson : Greeley-Loveland . Mr. Chair- man , before we get too far into the discussion , we ' ve had a request from the Larimer County Planning Commission and I ' ll read it. This is addressed to me and it' s a plan— ning member staff, or staff member from the Larimer County Planning office. "Preliminary plat of Indianhills Sub— division located at etc . , etc . , has been received for re— view by the Larimer County Planning Commission In accord- _ t }ite rUfr 2 3={ISM mgt Qlrlr =5 and fry Ga �. �2 Ttat e,-2 63 , t1i 11-a-trrtirrq--to Tsre-quired _: i' irra- keg std gr eTrsz.rxa_r}z w#rt& ar = frg in �,wt +n r1 es-- ut t rnt - elm...a- y.- F,ter- _�.-�I�=�-"�i�3 = F- - al e ent-f re_ ifitecr± he-T+YarnTrrg;-by-"the --H Commission at it 's January 12th meeting. " And I would re- quest this Board to table any action until Larimer County ewed` he-f-f`a F� Lyle--Anderson _ I addi-trnn--ta--.thi-s, tie ave- - now got some pretty permanent right-of-way lines here. I ' d like to have you drop out and see my system - - - - and give you this ( inaudible) . Mr. Shupe : 0 . K. This was the letter that was -2- - • • • • • given to us in here some time ago . Mr. Anderson : Yeah , about 6 or 8 weeks ago . That was a preliminary thing . We now have aerial photo- graphs and we ' ve got right-of-way lines . Mr. Shupe : I ' ve noticed your panel trucks out there. Mr. Anderson : Right , so if you' ll drop into the office , let us give you this information so you can cor- rect this - - - Mr. Shupe : Is this the Greeley office? Mr. Anderson : Yes , and we would like to have a copy of this . plat or- -the=LittTr r '�s . mss=••"'�•�^�7yer _ -- Rd - ' SIT ` -,�.,--,_r•.-. - etti • .: _ _ -i•�—,... ... --•:.-r_ ..—�.uF-..rte_ Mr. Anderson : And you might as well get it on -- --- ' - ry -plat and -we—wait 1t -tief-re we- finalize' this. I • do have the Clearance Record for this one here which should be added to this . I think Dale called you about it. Mr. Lorenson : Yes . J • Mr. Shupe : The other day and asked if we could bring it to the meeting . Mr. Lorenson : Yes . Mr. What do you call this? Mr. Shupe : It' s called "Indianhead" . Mr. Ewing : Does it make any difference in here whether they say "Indianhead" or "Indianhills"? Mr. Shupe : Pardon? Mr. Ewing : In their letter, is it "Indianhead" or "Indianhills "? Ed Kelly : You said "Indianhills" when you read ='f _ — _ _ — Mr'-L4rens=on =ox - nd .head- - •. -- -. s. '..... - - �. � _ -,; ., -_.�.. „ ;fir...- • — M Sfit i _ e d y s that there 1 _same-c on-fTTct vn th-tfi'rs-one-named "Cheyenne" . r_Fagan • Da _keep tkis , or — L = Mr_ i-orensotr_ 7fo im--astL we-wary-t- at bask - _ You-w n-t a-cegy o€ 3 it -it —.be fftre Mr. Fagan : No , I don ' t especially need it. That was the motion you made? To table it? Mr. Lorenson : I ' m requesting that it be tabled • -4- • • • • until reviewed by Larimer County. Mr. Shupe : I don ' t know whether your review necessarily is tied to their planning review or not. Mr. Lorenson : We' re required by State Statutes that when it is a certain distance of any other jurisdic- tion , city or county jurisdiction , that we' re required to submit it for review. Mr. Shupe : I understand that. The only thing • - - i way saying is , that it might be possible to , to review it so far as easements are concerned. • Mr. Lorenson : I would reiterate , Mr. Chairman , -.-- that__:-I..-.wo�r_-1 d 1 i ke. t_o_have this p at;._.r__evie ed:._:by-Larimer : _- _ - w nth t h-�-�y ` � �.°` _ __ar.r_' _LY u9'.�, - �C ��Nii J^�.mL.wT.i�+*..r. +•T•-r. - .'+•�^Z '_�H'�-•• ,,. '^0-T .- r - Ow 5e �S- s - dif-fICta _ -_ - .."^ _ - =Mr; -`7 -23a — __._ .— _..___._. _ a — •sue - _ -- Mr. -Shupe : --Oh ,--I ' m sorry, I 'm reading upside • down . 0. K. this is a 192 , it ' s not 261 , as it appears upside down . 230 feet_deep_this way and almost_200 _feet• ..-. - :vixe- -#a_twa3� at -=:i` l yof44:347-f-m1 rn mi-nd ' m . ., u_p an-ft re o lsxn� t--it `right-side -up. 0h ; I beg your pardon , I ' m looking at it right side and thought I was looking at it upside down . 0. K. but it is 192 feet wide . Well , if that be your please , why this is fine , we just - - Mr. Fagan : But we haven ' t said yet on it. s ' s.4• ..-:w• ... 1 ate•"�','•�•�`' '-�.7'�',.y..•:. '� S - lr •,� - •'2a. :,i • • • • • - Mr. Lorenson : No , you haven ' t. • Mr. Fagan : Burman has , you made this as motion? We can second it or - - - Mr. Lorenson : I am staff, I am not part of the Board . Mr. Fagan : Oh. Mr . Ewing : May I ask you this , Dave? Mr . Mauldin : I make a motion to table the mat—, .. ter until after it ' s been reviewed by Larimer• County. Mr. Fagan : Is there a second to that? • Mr. Bevan : I ' ll second that . -ttSST_ • - -— r` r--•-••-tee. �...� - t, .ter - .. _ - ar—�.•.---_ =_AZT _ ,..�--�;_,,,,; "- :...-.. .. S:;;...._ :_. •- _ ; Mr. Fagan : We already have a second . - hw- ST S-Ctltei �_ -- _ -s - _ - .. • - ; 'nri -the=ques hhd-• to Yo"'wf and he made the motion , so I , no problem. Mr . Fagan : Is there anymore discussion on this mot -on? All in favor? . Unanimous : "Aye" . Mr. Fagan : Motion carried. Mr . Shupe : If it is exercised , any damage that they do to surface improvements will have to be bought by the railroad , and to mine coal in an area 150 feet wide is probably not terribly profitable. Mr. Fagan : Was this one of those original U. P. sections and they reserved the mineral rights on those? Mr. Shupe : Yes , it' s a very old thing. Mr. Fagan : But that also applies to oil drill - ing , etc . Nir wing: Lies -trope it does ,-we' ve ga"t�fDQ : . some o d e1-1 s_ convf g=4tt ng-exerers Guy-tie shv :because rr ,fi T- = -- eel_ ` — _ _ Mr. Ewing : You have been officially stalled , so there ' s no reason for us to sit there and stare at it. Mi a4zt` - r _etre _ = -- Mr.--Shufte-t =E-stat T F�rya eharige T o t __. ' we do have game in the streets and some on the back lot lines as well . - Mr. Shupe : A copy of the covenants . It says , "The property owner of each lot shall , at their expense , tap into public sewer system when it and if it is avail - A 1 able and shall also tap into natural gas lines when it is `€ available . So in addition to the affidavit that the State asks you to sign , it is also the intent of the developer that they should tap into a system when it becomes avail - able . Mr . Ewing : There ' s a problem right here . Mr. Fagan : Well , it could be relocated. There , is a problem on these things , Dave. We got into this over at Milliken. They were putting in a sewer line and we had a water line right there and the grade on their sewer line comes out exactly on a collision course with the existing water line and this made them a problem because they said that grade was real critical . Mr. Shame.- Grad is not critical anywhere-on_. this one beciust o-f terrain of it but Mr: F-anirt This can be a ptaablem right hire if they' ve got to cro i water liner and-if the- gra&: is =• critical , they'v& hates - to-yew- shalt t.kee _ same:general=10 ritatet- „ Mr. Shage mss, it certainly .cauld%ems_ L beg. your pardon? Mr. Kelly : I said the topography looks favor- able as far..as. { f€tkta_I-__ _ =y-- Mr Shuge;_ (rir> yes I think it: Ts ._ - Mr. Ewing : Other than that , I don' t see any problems . Someday they' re going to have to go ahead and do it and - - - - it ' s there. • -8- a — Mr. Shupe: I think that what you ' re saying is • very true and it' s a point well taken. I come from Boulder County where problems of this nature have developed in the past , it ' s perhaps a little more urbanized , in some respects particularly around the city of Boulder, and mountain sub- divisions in particular where sewer was not anticipated , are very very difficult , they' re a real problem for them because now they' re faced with the need for a sewer system but the subdivision wasn ' t designed with that in mind and . it' s very very difficult to provide service. Mr. Ewing : You bet. Mr. Kelly: Inaudible. _ Mr. Ewing: Right . -- - ----_,,::;.i -T_ r -:-...= = �. . .. :,.._...• --. :----:....--7,-,_-1-.....-,...___ __- -T: - -- Y. f Ar 3 tfp-e;', "` -7 -17aT Eli r_Z S--n d try-t6- e---; -- • ---:--7----- ___-- - Cos-€ o:-u s-en o u g 1� =o--d g n -o t.rr-3 u-b d t i•ri o ns t rr - • Yr a s a t---#ra p tr t� he - - Ire d-s o Bar t--- a„ _ -= -S '-SC` - -=s..--.r•-•" ce-- . f- ,:n.-77--7,--- -..,-- .-- _....- ----,r5- .≤.,u,.. -.. its: s�.i�^v - — fi1 r• � _"� r+-�-.. - ��:. "Tar may--.^ -s - � �-7�k -- .T77- _' ,mss- l�frtfir i iT BOtt der-,- a} Af 1:7:114 Orr .gam r =:,. .:z ..,,,...a....__....7-:--. - � ; +a� r❑4■ i.- ai.aamr r - ar— :--�----- - - --_ r T '.�� utr .� wry -•_.L.-__--.47‘'"----::_,-__-_____ • - ttOfr xra=; -tnat rs T or-- a-years . re-amtu eH-1 ,--now- -s even-------" years later, they' re saying , "It' s five years too late" . .. :':::-=--- --2------- -_ ---- . w- yck -�f 1-e x-` te— nau o= -thy c 3�_s_ -- � y�.tc�t��1=i1 come d-o_i 'f -. ---_,..._-. --- _ba``1 e-1-ii-t 11= -W O--Tr: - • • - Mr. Shupe : Up in this general area , we could , yes. Mr. Fagan : Yeah , over there where you had your hand . -y- • Mr. Shupe : In this area , it ' s flat enough that we probably could . Mr. Fagan : But this is just preliminary , I mean this could be - - - - Mr. Shupe : Well yes , the was an investigative study essentially. Mr. Fagan : Of course we like to have the sewer lines as far away from the water lines as you can get them. '. • • - Mr.. Shupe: Well yes , and they need to be at • least ten feet apart to meet the State requirements . Mr . Fagan : I don ' t see any real problems . You ' ve got enough _grade there to._ take car-e- of- the then -:'c`•_ ��: 'a � r - c d - .- .-.....� ��.-.. _•r:• —....?w1:rCri-.-:-mss.'c.-"._'• _ .:_� ..- -ffi•--•... ._______ 'ale :,.•'^v -? ..ter_...r--. �— . •A�j*c..r�.4Z'�~�� ___-_-*•r��:. •—=�o�r�d�-ate _ _ �-T�= _- r3�e'-,-€ova P -E p -'`' � a�t�} ffrtt _ --- t.�- .— - •mac = ":�...�.-.�. .A°��. _...-'.:�'7""'='. - -- ;_- --._ �_.�_-:- -...- - -- - '..�.. �'- - .. -Y - � > %- -T�F-r.- ��-'_` � z�--c _ �� •s� � 1•`!'m� .'^`.� � .mow 'm .asp_-.__'-�..• .._. _..:.... -._.�-�-..-_. �_.r.- _ -- • _.'- _L_Z_.�. - �'-�� pmy-'•- +y�� .. y _ ...• }per�\ _ .� ..F., • [s _ Sit• and it was my understanding that it had been submitted by • Mr. Olhausen . I ' ll have to check that when I get bakc. If- you - - - _ _ --- .�. u want ��t.�-...��-ta�ma � Its ii t �u b-r trlit t .ra c k �• rte-, a n :.vim `y � � l Y._ �� - - - Mr `Lorerifon: - You know on those Subdivision • Regulations that you xeroxed yesterday? Mr. Fagan : Well , we do have a motion . Mr. Kelly : - - - - motion , would that initial -10- L�:, Zc� -.mac .t x ..�.:._ ;�. „w •.,r i.'.. r .. � ,:r • k: •< ;lr. �t• •Lai • l.i • • • • •_. .;•f• _ ,_ � ,r •.y. ..'t'�,_ - •'a•• w •.�..-' `;,y le",� � ±r •te sk i• • .Y..4'y.•• - condition until Byron put up the sewer, so , we ' ve satis- fied the sewer. Right , it seemed to be a reasonable con- • dition - - -- - Mr. Deyoe : Question , of course I ' , new. I don ' t see anything here , but I was wondering , is there anything shown for hydrants on this thing? ..-: Mr. Fagan : There are fire hydrants in this. por - tion of it but I don ' t know if you have any design on - - Mr. Shupe : I believe they' re. on there.'; Mr. Deyoe : I missed them, I guess I - - • • Mr. Shupe : They are eseentially pumper hydrants because of- the_ nature of of the equipment,used.,to_fi ght. fi re_= �� _ter iAsrs — - ?w..p....'_ : .._::ate - � _mac • :" �r�w s x_�•-� - - �.� y T $ia- .i- al `:�'-.._ ySx.r�„'�a�: s;- z): - ^.d am ate,-.^.. - mac.- --- w•-__ c' racy:•.-_ ,•�..�_ _ �►- i,�. M�i_ ..sa__� --..:+- ,'r, _ • .. :.. _ _ - _—•:+eva.t+aeat•,--•.�.;-,�_... •'a_-xa •--'�-`t-�-�'.-.--T'•-•.-'*""e- Mr. Deyoe: 'filie 6-quirement��F-a apart , maximum. �_ -_. _ :.��M� Sk�� • - .::. #�r�r��e�rt~t►►e1.3 eneugh front here• -- . • ....:� ..,_,... T. . MD-.- Kelly : What- size' water 1-in are they hooked up to? Mr. Fagan : They are there. Mr. Kelly : What size water line are they coming Cut from? Z .17 i .. Mr. Fagan : This is 6 in the subdivision . Mr. Shupe : Yes , we' ve kept it 6 to supply hyd- rants basically. Mr. Anderson : What ' s this 2 inch coming up - - Mr. Fagan : The cul -de-sacs are 2 - - - Mr. Shupe : That' s strictly supply lines . Mr. Deyoe: Uh-huh . Basically , there should be one at every cul -de-sac entrance. Mr. Kelly: Correct. Mr. Shupe ; A hydrant? - ,: - -Mr. Iii lax �I�T ,mot-_ holds: nomf ff of--a- _ qtr Shupe;=-. . 4� __ sx L' nat_s_urethere i-s-atre nse&ba at-e=veep - -- • 1'a^ I•i.•S-0 Y""q}�xw ^i `T,T®.r_i -. SAL &p— s+- %^e+ • .... J i __ — -- _ — i u�rm _ � r. F Mr. Deyoe : That ' s great. Hose trucks carry 500 feet of hose and usually that' s standard with the fire ap rtm-ent -W _ - _, _ Mr.-=Shupe_- W el-I- -3 =ma _s th_i s - 1 n ts1 L- will be submitted to the Johnstown Fire Department that controls this area . I did talk with them over the phone regarding the serving of it and we will submit that to them for checking of hydrant location . • Mr. Kelly : We just need a second . • Mr. Fagan : Is there a second to it? Mr. Anderson : I ' ll second it . Mr. Fagan : Any more discussion" All in favor? Unanimous : "Aye" .Mr. Fagan Opposed" Carried . • Mr. Shupe : Thank you , gentlemen . • • • • • •_-- _- r -• —�� aNe:.y.•- - mss ''C w�w"'.ciw-+ .w".w�..�}• s, '""' t'• wn ` . •''¢s=.rte•_ .•.—"'ti.= �.,,..;_..a _ •-S.Y" + L^y� __ • •^�;wi..:.�-_ _.__ - ...ate.-... �T' - "•' _ • - r.---,;.''_r,�•d•�.._,rte-+�;._� ...c,+� S..,.,... �,.- _ ..,� _ _. -�-�`- .--� .... ... _.._.... ....-_--..r....._y�^�--z+r.:r—�.-.w.•..._- - _• - _ - :y�""�- — - - marts..way.i+w3r�...w.:•�y-e,sn^e•�.,,.:-:�1�' • - - - �Rr _- � -'}' -...:^�`_ , Hello