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I have reviewed the application and the drawings and have the following comments:
The applicant indicated that the interior roads will be paved. In addition, a maintenance agreement
dated April 12, 1995, is proposed to establish cost share between the applicant and the County on
paving WCR 396 from the entrance of the Dos Rios Subdivision, 2nd Filing, to WCR 52. The
applicant proposes to pay 30.8% of the cost. Although the County agrees with the approach taken
in the proposed agreement, the traffic count was taken in 1993, and there was no count taken at the
entrance of the Dos Rios Subdivision. The count of 4.55 trips per lot seems low. We recommend
a new traffic count be taken that includes the entrance into Dos Rios and WCR 396 in either
direction to better identify the subdivision traffic.
We have no objection to a fee for paving being paid out of the proceeds of each lot sale; however,
the mechanics could be difficult to work out and should be reviewed by our legal staff
The applicant is indicating that there will be a run-off agreement on the Dos Rios Subdivision, 2nd
Filing, involving the Evans Ditch adjacent to the new subdivision. The platted property lies between
the South Platte River and the Thompson River. The City of Evans is concerned about the additional
run-off/drainage from the subdivision that will flow into the Evans City Ditch. This agreement
needs to be resolved between the City of Evans and the applicant prior to recording the final plat.
In the improvement agreement (regarding collateral for improvements Exhibit A, 2nd Filing, Phase
I improvements, in Phase I). The applicant only refers to Lots 1 through 8, Block 4. Please verify
this so that I may check the estimated construction costs. Are there additional improvements
agreements forthcoming to complete the subdivision?
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1000 10TH STREET, GREELEY, COLORADO 80631 (303) 350-9780
July 24, 1995
Gloria Dunn
Weld County Department of Planning Services
1400 North 17th Avenue
Greeley, CO 80631
Subject: S-385 - Dos Rios Estates, Second Filing Final Plat
Dear Ms. Dunn:
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on the Final Plat for Dos Rios Estates,
Second Filing.
The Final Plat submitted is essentially the same as was submitted for the Preliminary
Plat; therefore, I have forwarded a copy of the City of Greeley Planning Commission
minutes and a cover letter dated September 14, 1995 which dealt with the Preliminary
Plat. The Preliminary Plat comments are applicable to the submitted Final Plat.
Our primary concern continues to be that this area, south of Greeley, is developing into
a pseudo -city without amenities usually associated with a city. The proliferation of
special districts serving this area are typically not as efficient as encouraging residential
uses to locate within existing city limits.
We appreciate the opportunity to comment and voice concerns about land use issues
which impact the City of Greeley.
Sincerely,
Greg hompSon
Planner II
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Ms. Gloria Dunn
Current Planner
1400 North 17th Avenue
Greeley, CO 80634
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
1000 10TH STREET, GREELEY, COLORADO 80631 (303) 350-9780
September 14, 1994
S-362 - Subdivision Preliminary Plan
Dos Rios Estates, Second Filing
Dear Gloria:
The City of Greeley Planning Commission discussed the referral from your
department regarding the Dos Rios Estates, Second Filing, Preliminary Plan,
yesterday at its regular meeting.
Discussion at the meeting centered around the existing development in the area
included in the Arrowhead, Indian Hills, Hill -N -Park, and Dos Rios, First Filing,
Subdivisions, and the impact this type of urban development has on the surrounding
area. The Greeley Planning Commission wants the County Commissioners to be
aware that a community between the size of Ault and Eaton exists in this area and
wants to caution the Commissioners against further development without some type of
plan which includes urban -type services.
After much discussion, the Greeley Planning Commission voted unanimously to
recommend approval of the Dos Rios Estates, Second Filing, Preliminary Plan only if
the following conditions are met:
1) A plan for future development must be generated for this area, including
provisions for urban -type services.
2) All interior streets for this filing must be paved, and a plan for paving the
other gravel roads in the area which will be utilized by residents of this
development must be formed.
As always, the City of Greeley appreciates the opportunity to comment.
Sincerely,
Lanell J. Adler
Planner II
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Commissioner Lockhart moved to find that the proposed annexation is within the
City's Long -Range Expected Growth Area and to recommend approval of the
annexation to the City Council. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Ewald.
The motion carried 7-0.
IX. CONSIDERATION OF A WELD COUNTY REFERRAL FOR A
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN IN THE E (ESTATE) ZONE
John Valencia excused himself from hearing this request in order to avoid a potential
conflict of interest.
Lanell Adler, Planner II, advised that the item is a Weld County referral for a
request by Joyce Allely for a preliminary subdivision plan in the E zone. The site is
located approximately 1.5 miles south of the City of Greeley and is south of Weld
County Road 52 and west of 47th Avenue. The project would add 32 lots ranging in
size from 2.50 acres to 5.03 acres to the Dos Rios subdivision. Ms. Adler entered
the Planning Commission Summary into the record.
Ms. Adler advised the Commission that the key issue to consider is whether the
proposal complies with the City's Comprehensive Plan.
Ms. Adler advised that the proposal does not meet the intent of Resolution 7, 1985,
which limits the overall gross density on subdivisions outside the Long -Range
Expected Growth Area to one dwelling unit per 20 acres. However, she noted that
this particular development would be located between two existing subdivisions where
services are in place. She noted that the density standards set forth in Resolution 7
were intended to encourage development within urban areas where services are
provided and to cluster development to preserve agricultural land and accommodate
future potential urban development. The proposal appears to meet these two
standards. Therefore, she recommended that the Commission find that the proposal
would be acceptable in this case.
Ms. Adler suggested that the Commission notify Weld County that the City would
not normally recommend approval of a rural residential subdivision and feels strongly
that this type of development should not be encouraged outside of an incorporated
area. She noted that if this development is approved, an estimated 1,400 people
would live in the immediate area. She cautioned that the combination of the
residential developments in this area has had the effect of creating a "community"
with no overall plan for service which may present potential code enforcement
problems.
An Administrative Review Team meeting was held. It was suggested that Weld
County Road 396 may need additional right-of-way in the future. However, since the
area is in the City of Evans planning area, Ms. Adler noted that Evans should
probably be responsible for making that recommendation.
In conclusion, Ms. Adler recommended that the Commission find that overall the
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proposal meets the intent of Resolution 7, 1985, and to recommend approval to Weld
County. She also recommended that the Commission express concern over this type
of development in general to Weld County for reasons listed in the staff analysis.
As an option to the Planning staff's recommendation, Rebecca Safarik, Community
Development Director, suggested that the Commission could recommend finding no
objection to the request because the area is located outside the Long -Range Expected
Growth Area but yet note that it has some concerns.
Patrick Mestas of Landmark Engineering represented the applicant. In response to a
comment by Chair Allen about the poor condition of the unpaved roadways in that
area, Mr. Mestas advised that the applicant intends to pave the roads. Mr. Mestas
commented that the applicant is even willing to provide seed money to the County for
paving the County roads. Chair Allen advised that he would not be in favor of
approving the request without a commitment to pave the roads.
Commissioner Wones questioned the effectiveness of expressing concern to Weld
County. He noted that there have been several requests for residential subdivisions in
the County. He agreed with Chair Allen that any roadways should be paved.
Commissioner de Besche asked if it would be beneficial to encourage the applicant to
seek annexation.
General discussion ensued regarding population and levels of service.
Ms. Safarik suggested recommending that annexation be pursued with any further
requests for residential development in the area. She advised that the Public Works
Department is looking at developing a western arterial. Commissioner Wones
pointed out that doing so would only encourage further development in the area.
Commissioner Wones moved to accept the Planning staff's recommendation and
asked that Weld County give thought to the future plans of the area and asked that
approval be granted contingent upon the streets being paved. The motion carried 6-
0 (Valencia abstaining).
X. STAFF REPORT
Rebecca Safarik, Community Development Director, advised that Weld County would
be conducting a training session for planning commissioners on Wednesday,
September 21, asked that anyone interested respond as soon as possible.
Ms. Safarik advised that a letter had been received from a law firm asking for a joint
work session with the Planning Commission and City Council to discuss deed
restrictions. She advised that the attorneys state that deed restrictions, which are an
alternative to planned unit developments, are in use in Denver.
Commissioner Valencia rejoined the meeting at 2:30 p.m.
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July 31, 1995
Gloria Dunn, Current Planner
Dept. of Planning Services
Weld County Admin. Offices
1400 N. 17th Ave.
Greeley, CO 80631
Case Number S-385
Gloria:
Upon review of Dos Rios Estates, Second Filing, the planning staff finds no conflicts with the
City's proposed Comprehensive Plan. The existing Comp Plan does not include the Dos Rios
Subdivision on the future land use map. However, the updated Plan does include Dos Rios and
the proposal is in conformance with the intent for that area.
The Public Works staff would like to include, as a stipulation to the approval, that there be
adequate clearance- under the pipes for high ditch flows, and that the construction or maintenance
of the ditch crossing will not close off the ditch during irrigation season.
Any questions regarding the ditch can be directed to James Hewitson, Public Works Director, at
the City of Evans.
Sincerely,
Chad Phillips,
Planner
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TRI-LAKES PROJECT OFFICE, 9307 STATE HWY 121
LITTLETON, COLORADO 801 23-6901
July 28, 1995
Ms. Gloria Dunn
Weld County Department of Planning Services
Weld County Administrative Offices
1400 N 17th Street
Greeley, Colorado 80631
Dear Ms. Dunn:
Reference is made to the Dos Rios Estates, Second Filing (your Case No. S-385)
located in Section 34, Township 5 North, Range 66 West, Weld County, Colorado.
The project has been reviewed in accordance with Section 404 of the Clean Water
Act under which the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers regulates the excavation and
discharge of dredged and fill material into waters of the United States including wetlands.
This letter is to inform you that the proposed activity, assigned number
199580642, will not require a Department of the Army (DA) Permit.
Although a DA Permit will not be required for the project, this does not eliminate
the requirement that other applicable federal, state, tribal, and local permits be obtained
as required.
If there are any questions concerning this matter, please feel free to contact Mr.
Terry McKee of this office at 303-979-4120.
Sincerely,
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Project Manager
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WEST GREELEY SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRICT
4302 West 9th Street Road
Greeley, CO 80634
(970) 356-6506
July 26, 1995
Gloria Dunn, Current Planner
Department of Planning Services
Weld County Administrative Offices
1400 N. 17th Ave.
Greeley, CO 80631
Dear Gloria,
The Board of Directors reviewed the Dos Rios Estates, Second filing,
case #S-385 in December of 1993. The Board has not changed their
position since that time and stands on their original decision of the
review.
If we can be of further assistance please contact Michael Shay at
356-6506
Sincerely,
PI ichael Shay
District Manager
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WEST GREELEY SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRICT
4302 WEST 9TH STREET ROAD
GREELEY, COLORADO 80634
(303) 356-6506
August 11, 1994
Gloria Dunn, Current Planner
Department of Planning Services
1400 N. 17th Avenue
Greeley, CO 80631
Gloria:
The West Greeley Soil Conservation District has completed a
site survey of the Dos Rios Estates subdivision. Our views
remain the same as our December 15, 1993 review. The
subdivision plan addresses all of our major concerns with
the exception of the following:
1. The area of prime farmland on the north end of the
property. We are concerned about the loss of prime
agricultural ground.
2. No restriction has been placed on the number of animals
allowed per unit. Overgrazing could lead to wind and water
erosion and noxious weed problems on the property.
3. The shallow soils on the slopes present problems for
septic systems. This could cause water quality problems if
the septic systems are not designed properly.
The district has staff available to assist landowners in
conservation practices. If we may be of assistance please
call our office.
Sincerely,
Michael Shay
District Manager
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August 11, 1995
Gloria Dunn
Weld County Planning Department
1400 N. 17th Avenue
Greeley, CO 80631
RE: Dos Rios 2nd filing
Dear Gloria
The primary concern that the City of Evans has in reference to the above captioned development
project is drainage into the Evans Town Ditch. Early on in the project, the applicant for the developer
prepared a drainage study which included two new crossings of the ditch. The City has rejected the
concept of placing drainage from new developments into the town ditch and is making a long term
commitment to remove existingstormdrainage outfalls from the ditch. Irrigation ditches were never
designed to accept runoff from new residential developments, and -accepting such drainage posses not
only a flood hazard potential to the citizens of Evans but also a liability problem for the City as well.
The City feels that the prudent drainage system for the Dos Rios subdivision is to transmit storm water
to the South Platte River along the most direct route thus allowing as little storm water as possible to
take the more circuitous and hazardous route along the Evans ditch through the City. According to the
subdivision's design, the existing corrugated metal pipes at the east ditch crossing and the middle ditch
crossing are inadequate to accomplish this. Since the drainage basin served by the west ditch crossing is
not affected by the proposed development to the extent that the other two crossings are, Evans will
allow the west ditch existing crossing to remain as is.
The City of Evans has no financial responsibility to construct these crossings for the developer. Should
the developer feel otherwise, she is welcome to schedule an appeal before the City's Water and Sewer
Board.
Also, as we noted in comments to you, the construction of these crossings should be scheduled as not
to interfere with the operations of the ditch during the irrigation season.
Sincerely
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James L. Hewitson, P.E.
Director of Public Works
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