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6. WELD COUNTY REFERRAL FORA VACATION OF A PORTION OF h' F l �:
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STREET AND 1ST STREET IN JOHNSON SUBDIVISION 16. ,l
• STAFF PRESENT:
Dan Correll, Chief Building Official TO " ' "
Dan Moore, Water System Engineer
Duane Scheel, Fire Battalion Chief
. Greg Thompson, Planner II
Dave Wells, Civil Engineer
PROJECT: Minor Resubdivision to Vacate a Portion of B
Street and 1st Street in Johnson Subdivision
LOCATION: B Street and 2nd Street (1st Street as Platted),
West of 40th Avenue
REPRESENTATIVES: Board
dof
County Commissioners
91510th Street
Greeley CO 80631
(None Present at Meeting) •
DISCUSSION:
Greg Thompson introduced the project and went through the Planning Division
comments. He noted that the requested action, a minor resubdivision, does not
appear to meet the criteria specified in the Weld County Subdivision Regulations
since the right-of-way has been used for its intended purpose for the last 21
years, less than 70 percent of the surrounding property owners have signed the
petition, and since it could be argued that it is not efficient and orderly
development.. Mr. Thompson noted that the proposal would eliminate a logical
extension of the street system in this area.
Mr. Thompson asked Mr. Wells if the street was 1st Street or 2nd Street. Mr.
Wells responded that it was 2nd Street.
Dan Moore indicated that there are water and sewer lines within each right-of-
way,proposed to be vacated; therefore, the Water and Sewer Department needs
an exclusive water and sewer easement with 10 feet on each side of each line.
Additionally, no structures or fences may be located in the easement, and woody
vegetation shall not be greater than three feet high.
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Mr. Moore continued his thoughts by noting that any public right-of-way asphalt
or concrete is replaced by the City during maintenance of the lines; however, if
the land is not public right-of-way, the land owner is required to replace the
asphalt.
Mr. Moore concluded by noting that access shall not be limited to the water and
sewer lines and that any barriers in the way shall be removed.
Dan Correll had no comment regarding the proposal.
Duane Scheel indicated that the Fire Department is strongly opposed to this
vacation because it would hamper the Fire Department operations and adequate
fire services would not be provided. This proposal does not provide required
turnarounds on a dead-end street. Additionally, the only fire hydrants.which
would serve the Johnson Subdivision are in the Larson Subdivision. The
vacation will cut off use of the fire hydrants. As currently existing, the Larson
Subdivision provides adequate access to the north part of Johnson Subdivision.
With the vacation, no access will be possible to 42nd Avenue, where the water
supply is. The vacation would prohibit access to fire hydrants that can provide
fire flow in the north central portion of Johnson Subdivision. The Fire
Department wants to ensure cohesive flow for its vehicles to respond. The
vacation would impede the response of the Fire Department. The primary
problems are lack of water and inadequate emergency vehicle access.
Mr. Scheel noted the Greeley and Western Hills Fire Departments are now
combined, and the Greeley Fire Department will be responding to this area.
Additionally, there was a conscious design for the streets to line up so fire
hydrants within Larson could serve the Johnson area.
Mr. Scheel concluded by suggesting that the property be annexed. Mr.
Thompson noted that the Johnson Subdivision, along with the gravel pit
immediately to the east, are totally surrounded by the City, and a forced
'annexation appears possible. Mr. Wells also agreed that this should be
considered.
Mr. Wells noted that not only would Johnson Subdivision have inadequate
access, but with this proposal, the Larson Subdivision would have inadequate
access. Mr. Wells indicated that the Public Works Department is strongly
opposed to this proposal and noted that the emergency response would be
impaired in both directions. This proposal would restrict cross-flow between the
adjacent neighborhoods.
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Mr. Wells noted that the application narrative suggests that there was a lack of
design and coordination; however, the centerline of the streets match, as does the
amount of right-of-way. Additionally, there are no harmful effects of increased
traffic, and that the amount of traffic within the subdivision will be increased
because visitors and service vehicles will be forced to go up and back rather than
through to the next subdivision.
Mr. Wells also noted that the County Resolution which closed the two streets for
120 days in May 1995 suggests that traffic investigations had been done. Mr.
Wells requested a copy of the traffic investigation. Mr. Scheel also requested a
copy.
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