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HomeMy WebLinkAbout871722.tiff_ .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. SECTION I Transcript and estimated costs and actual costs 871722 BEFORE THE BOARD CF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WELD COUNTY, COLORADO DOCKET NO. 87-19 IN RE: APPLICATION OF GARY BRAGDON FOR A USE BY SPECIAL REVIEW FOR A LIVESTOCK CONFINEMENT OPERATION MAY 27 , 1987 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: GORDON E . LACY, CHAIRMAN C.W. KIRBY, PRO-TEM GENE R. BRANTNER JACQUELINE JOHNSON FRANK YAMAGUCHI ALSO PRESENT: APPLICANT, GARY BRAGDON ROBERT RAY, ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT THOMAS O. DAVID, -WELD COUNTY ATTORNEY BRUCE T. BARKER, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY LEE D. MORRISON, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY MARY REIFF, ACTING CLERK TO THE BOARD LANELL SWANSON, CURRENT PLANNER, REPRESENTING THE WELD COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING SERVICES WES POTTER, REPRESENTING THE WELD COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT 870421 CHAIRMAN LACY: At this time , Mr. David, I would have you do Docket No. 87-19 , please . Read it into the record. MR. DAVID: This is Docket No. 87-19 . The applicant is Gary Bragdon, 4106 22nd Street, Greeley, Colorado 80634 . The request is for a Use by Special Review for a livestock confinement operation for 20 ,000 head of sheep. The legal description is the Southeast Quarter of Section 8 , Township 5 North, Range 67 West of the 6th P.M. , in Weld County, Colorado. The location is approximately two miles west of the Greeley city limits, north of Weld County Road 58 , and west of Weld County Road 17 . The notice of this hearing was dated May 4 , 1987 . It was published in the Johnstown Breeze on May 14 , 1987 . The date today is May 27 , 1987 , the time is 2 : 43 P .M. , and the file appears to be complete in all respects. MS . SWANSON: This Resolution was adopted by the Weld County Planning Commission on May 19 , 1987 . Moved by Lydia Dunbar that the following Resolution be introduced for passage by the Weld County Planning Commission: Be it resolved by the Weld County Planning Commission that the application for Gary Bragdon for a Use by Special Review permit for a livestock confinement operation of 20 , 000 head lamb feeding be recommended favorably to the Board of County Commissioners for the following reasons : 1) The submitted materials are in compliance with the application requirements of Section 24 . 7 of the Weld County Zoning Ordinance; 2) It is the opinion of the Weld County Planning Commission that the applicant has shown compliance with Section 24 .3 of the Weld 870421 1 County Zoning Ordinance as follows : The proposed Use by Special Review area is located within the urban growth boundary areas of the City of Greeley and the Town of Windsor. The location of the Use by Special Review area and the attached Conditions and Development Standards make the proposed use consistent with Urban Growth Boundary Goals 1 , 2 and 3 of the Weld County Comprehensive Plan. Urban Growth Boundary Goal 1 explains that urban development should be concentrated in or adjacent to existing municipalities. The proposed use is located approximately two miles west of the City of Greeley' s long-range expected growth area. The long-range expected growth area includes those lands anticipated to accommodate urban development over the next twenty to thirty years. In addition, the City of Greeley' s Capital Improvements Program currently includes completion of services in the long-range expected growth area in approximately the year 2005 . The City' s five-year Capital Improvements Plan also projects no new utility services to the long-range expected growth area. The location of the proposed use and the timing of the proposed plans for public infrastructure in the long-range expected growth area should not interfere with urban development plans projected by the City of Greeley' s Comprehensive Plan. Representatives of the Town of Windsor have indicated that the proposed use would not interfere with its urban development plans. Urban Growth Boundary Goal 2 explains that land-use regulations in urban growth boundary areas should be maintained to allow the County and municipalities to coordinate plans, policies and 2 870421 standards relating to land-use zoning regulations . Street and highway construction, public infrastructure systems, and other closely related matters affecting the orderly development within an urban growth boundary. Representatives of the Town of Windsor indicated no objection to the proposed use occurring within its urban growth boundary area in a phone conversation on May 8 , 1987 . On April 28 , 1987 , the Greeley Planning Commission recommended objections to granting the Use by Special Review permit because the proposal could not conform to the City' s Comprehensive Plan policies which discourage the location of high impact agricultural uses , with the possibility of causing significant negative external impacts . The Planning Commission' s concerns were based on the intensity of the proposed use creating off-site impacts , such as odor and dust, at a location close enough to impact future development in the long-range expected growth area. The location of the operation, as proposed, with attached Development Standards , should address the concerns of the Greeley Planning Commission. The City of Greeley does not have a specific standard for fugitive dust and odor and relies upon the Weld County Health Department for monitoring and regulating in accordance with State law. Representatives of the Weld County Health Department reviewed this proposal and recommended approval with conditions in a letter dated April 23 , 1987 . The conditions proposed by the Weld County Health Department regulate odor and dust. The Greeley Planning Commission also expressed concerns about the effect the feedlot pens would have on the City' s image if viewed by the 3 870421 traveling public from U.S . Highway 34 . The Planning Commission recommended a screening standard in the event the application was approved. The screening standard is included in the attached Development Standards . In addition to a screening standard, the feedlot pens are proposed to be set back approximately 1200 feet from Highway 34 . The screening plus the special setback will reduce the view of the feedlot pens from Highway 34 . Urban Growth Boundary Goal 3 explains that urban growth boundary areas should be maintained to provide an official definition between future urban and agricultural land uses. The subject site is located two miles west of the City of Greeley, and within the City ' s urban growth boundary as a result of the 1600-acre, plus or minus , Golden Triangle Number 2 annexation, which occured in January of 1985 . Because of the extended annexation and the fact that City services are not proposed to be completed within two miles of the Use by Special Use Review area until 2005 , the long-range expected growth area should be considered the official definition between future urban and agricultural uses. The proposed use is consistent with the intent of the Agricultural Zone District in which the use would be located . The proposed use is a livestock confinement operation and is provided for as a Use by Special Review in the Agricultural Zone District. The uses which would be permitted would be compatible with the existing surrounding land uses. North of the subject site the principal use is agricultural , including a dairy operation and crop production. East of the subject site the principal use is agricultural, crop 4 870421 production. West of the subject site the use is agricultural, including two cattle feedlots and crop production. South of the subject site is U.S . Highway 34 and the principal use is agricultural , crop production. The use which would be permitted will be compatible with the future development of the surrounding area as permitted by the existing zone, and with future development as projected by the Comprehensive Plan of the County and the adopted Master Plan of the City of Greeley and the Town of Windsor. The future development of the surrounding area is intended to remain agricultural in nature. The City of Greeley projects that services for urban development will be available two miles east of this site by the year 2005 . The Town of Windsor has no plans to provide services within two miles of the subject site. No overlay districts affect the site. In locating the feedlot pens , the lagoon system, and the residence , the applicant has demonstrated a diligent effort to conserve productive agricultural land. The Use by Special Review Development Standards will provide adequate protection of the health, safety and welfare of the neighborhood and County. This recommendation is based in part upon a review of the application submitted by the applicant, other relevant information regarding the request and the responses of the referral entities who have reviewed this request. The Planning Commission' s recommendation for approval is conditional upon the following: 1) The Use by Special Review activities shall not occur nor shall any building or electrical permits be issued on the property until the Use by Special Review 5 870421 plat has been delivered tc the Department of Planning Services Office and the plat is ready to be recorded in the office of the Weld County Clerk and Recorder; 2) Prior to recording the Use by Special Review plat , the Development Standards for the Use by Special Review permit shall be adopted and placed on the Use by Special Review plat. The plat shall be amended to show: a) Relocation of the access from Weld County Road 17 at least 1 ,000 feet to the south of the proposed access on the plat. Such access shall be adequate to serve commercial truck traffic as determined by the Weld County Engineering Department; b) Landscape screening of the pens on the south and west sides consisting of evergreens staggered at 20 to 25 foot intervals; 3) Prior to construction of the livestock confinement operation , evidence shall be submitted to the Department of Planning Services that the Colorado Department of Health , Water Quality Control Division, has approved a report prepared by a Colorado Registered Professional Engineer demonstrating compliance with its Guidelines for Design of Feedlot Runoff Containment Facilities . The motion was seconded by Louis Rademacher. Voting for passage were : LeeAnn Reid, Lydia Dunbar, Louis Rademacher and Jack Holman. Against passage were : Lynn Brown and Paulette Weaver. There are nineteen Development Standards attached. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there questions from the Board to staff at this time? At this time , then, I would ask that the applicant or representative come forward please. 6 870421 MR. RAY: I 'm Bob Ray, attorney for the applicant. Mr. Bragdon ' s here also. I guess we would like to stress a couple of things . One is the City of Greeley' s concerns, I think, are adequately answered by the staff. They voice some concerns, but they have no standards for dust and odor, and it certainly has been addressed by the Planning Department and the Weld County Department of Health, and I believe the standards required in this case will adequately protect the City of Greeley, which is presently about nine miles, in actual development, from this site, and its long-range growth will be two miles from this site. There are, I believe , four feedlots already in the area within two miles of this proposed site. There are two dairies within two miles of the site and the City of Greeley has a sludge dump within a mile of the site. So, it certainly appears that this activity would be consistent with the other activities in the area. That' s all I have. If you've got some questions of Mr. Bragdon, he' s here to answer them. CHAIRMAN LACY: Well, I will ask if he cares to make any statements . Does the Board have any questions for Mr. Ray at this time? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: Do you know the size of those other feed operations? MR. RAY: I do not. Do you, Mr. Bragdon? CHAIRMAN LACY : He would have to come forward to answer those. He can answer those if he would like . Would you state your name , sir. 7 870421 MR. BRAGDON: My rame is Gary Bragdon. I ] ive at 4106 22nd Street in Greeley. CHAIRMAN LACY: The question was , the size of the other feedlots and dairies . MR. BRAGDON: Right. I don' t know exactly the size of those feedlots. I 'd guess in capacity, I believe Harry Franks is upwards of or in the neighborhood of 1 ,000 head. There ' s a feedlot to the north of that and I don' t even know who owns that feedlot, but it' s approximately half the size of Harry Franks ' . Croissants , to the south, a few miles south, and the Ray Amen estate, that' s two feedlots down on the Johnstown road, and I 'm gonna guess they' re approximately about 1 , 000 head each. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: How close is Franks ' ? MR. BRAGDON: Half a mile to the west. And there ' s a smaller feedlot just maybe a quarter of a mile north of that feedlot, which would also be approximately half a mile west. CHAIRMAN LACY: Do you have any further statements that you would care to make at this time , Mr. Bragdon? MR. BRAGDON: If I could, please. I appreciate the opportunity. The question, obviously, I guess , is , why the location. And I ' ll give you a little brief background. Since I graduated from C.S.U. in 1964 , I 've been a resident of northern Colorado, and the last 19 years of that ' s been in Weld County. I 've been in the feed and livestock business for that time . I have owned and operated the feedlot three miles north of Severance which was very similar in size to this one we ' re applying for 8 670421 special review on. Also, I was a feed division manager at Agland for 12 years . I 'm going back into the lamb feeding business , and I believe it' s a viable, economic factor for Weld County. The lamb business is rather historic in Weld County. Some things recently have changed, I think, that have induced me to go back into the lamb feeding business, not only the crops available in the western part of the County, but also, now recently has become available pulp from Western Sugar Company here at Greeley, which wasn' t a factor here a couple of years ago. The Johnstown started up their fructose plant at Johnstown. Coors has started up their fructose plant which produces in the neighborhood of, let' s see, I can' t recall, some couple of hundred tons of gluten feed bi-product. Plus the flour milling in Denver, ConAgra, which is also an ingredient we plan to use, and a year from this time would be 120 thousand tons of brewers ' grains from Anheuser-Busch up at Fort Collins . Consequently, this location is in the center of the supplies that we plan to use in the feed rations for these lambs . I looked in a lot of other locations through, not only Pat McMear, but four or five other realtors , bankers and other lenders, and this is not just a happenstance that we picked this property. We seriously looked at other locations . This piece of property has an ideal suitability at least for such an application, mainly, the first thing you look for is the water, and the water is available, as I first thought from Little Thompson Water District. Wrong, they were not able to supply that, but the City of Greeley has an easement through that property, which is denoted on that map, and 9 870421 they will provide the water for this operation. The other is the road accesses , which I think are really important as far as winter time is concerned and providing a supply of the feedstuff to that location. Obviously, if any roads are going to be opened up in a blizzard, it' d hopefully he Highway 34 , and that' s important. As Bob mentioned, we ' re in the area of other feedlots; a couple of other dairies , the junkyard is there , and I think that this operation would be very compatible with the existing livestock operations that are within a near proximity of this site . The other reason is , too, that prevailing winds basically are from northwest to southeast. We considered that and, if you look from the southeast of this site, it' s toward open farm land and Monfort of Gilcrest, so the consideration. . . The lay of the land is ideal as far as the design of the property. It' s got an ideal lay with a south and west slope, the soil conditions were looked at by the Soil Conservation Service; we saw no limitations there. The inspection, the review and approval by Weld County Public Health, again, revealed no limitations there, as far as developing a catchment basin for containment of the wastewater runoff. The Weld County Planning staff, your staff here, I think, did an admirable job in reviewing the whole scheme of this development, and looking at the possible limitations there on-site, and of course , as far as reviewing the materials . Alpha Engineering, I employed them to review the operation too, to make whatever recommendations were necessary in collaboration with Weld County Public Health. We drilled test holes to make sure that we did not 10 870421 have water in the areas of where we would develop the retention ponds which is shown on the map. The other ideal suitability of this property is that with this catchment basin, or the retention ponds , we ' ll be able to separate the irrigation tail water and rain water from the farm from the waste water runoff of the pens. And, the farm itself, the 150 acres will be converted from row crop to a pasture operation so that we ' ll he able to drain the retention ponds in the required time that is necessary. As I understand, stagnant water, once it' s allowed to sit for a period of over six days, why it becomes odiferous at times , and so the State requires removal of these retention ponds or the emptying of these retention ponds within fifteen days . I 've agreed to a six-day removal. There ' s been some concern about the odor out there . I 'm gonna be living on the property and I 'm gonna be just as concerned about the odors as anyone else , so that behooves me , I think, to manage the waste water in a favorable manner, not only to myself, but my neighbors as well. I 'm going on too long here, I hope not. On the property is an adjudicated lake. The water originates on that property and we hope to utilize this lake water, instead of irrigation water, for dust control. Some concern, I guess from the City of Greeley, regarding dust: we plan to manage that very well. Dust pneumonia is a factor in the health of lambs in the feedlot, primary, and above all is to hopefully prevent health problems from dusty situations , and with that lake there we hope to manage that. This design of this feedlot allows 50 square feet per animal . Normally, I think most 11 870421 lots, as far a lamb feedlots , allow 30 square feet. We have increased that area per animal to maximize the drying potential, so that' ll minimize odor problems, as far as the manure is concerned. Manure removal will be year round perhaps , and exactly where it' ll go, outside of neighboring farms , would be a possibility of composting operations at Eaton, Wiggins or Littleton. Six hundred fifty acres provides an adequate buffer, as far as neighboring farms is concerned, with these pens . In my application I tried to speak to or address every section of the Weld County Ordinance, and tried to infer to you that there could be a compatibility and a compliance with all the Ordinances that are spelled out in the Use by Special Review section of that Ordinance. I think I 've properly addressed the Weld Comprehensive Plan. I believe I understand it to be, in Weld County, the promotion of agricultural industries and, specifically, in the Weld County Comprehensive Plan goals states the promotion of agri-businesses and feedlots . I think that' s pretty clearly spelled out. I 'm here with some endorsements, and I guess I 'm here with some negatives . I believe that, like I mentioned earlier, that Weld County Public Health staff has reviewed and approved this site , the City of Windsor, the mayor, the city administrator, and the Windsor Planning Commission, is unanimously approved this site as far as the development is concerned. Again, the Weld Planning Services staff has given their recommendation, they've offered their criticisms in how to mitigate any problems that there might possibly be and they' re easily provided for. I 12 870421 mentioned the Soil Conservation Service. The Weld County Planning Commission voted 4-2 in cur favor. The nearest neighbor is Ed. Skaggs and he has no problem with the feedlot. He says if you live on the property, he says , I would assume that you'd probably take care of the property just as well for yourself as you would for me . As I mentioned, in the 70 's I had the feedlot up in Severance, and it was 16 years ago that I was before the County Commissioners, as I am right here today, and there were a lot of complaints. It was approved. In that period, in the 1970 ' s, when I owned and operated that feedlot I did not have a complaint as far as any runoff or any odor problems was concerned, nor do I know of any complaints that were registered formally with the Weld County government here. So, I think that I can say that I can do a lot of things , but I think in the past I have proven that I can do a lot of things . Hertzke ' s Dairy, for example, it's approximately a 400-cow dairy, and it' s right out in "the Long Range Urban Growth Plans of Greeley" . It sits immediately to the north. I 've never heard anybody complain about the Hertzke Dairy, as far its operation or its odor or its dust. And it' s simple , it' s a well-managed operation , and I plan to have something very similar to that. I think that the safeguards and the precautions as far as the community and the County is concerned, is well put in the recommendations from the Planning Services and from the Planning Commission. True, maybe some day urban growth will happen there , but I can' t predict it. I 'd like to say that the value of the property that we ' re going to put this project on does 13 870421 not reflect an immediate urban growth plan. Times change, and perhaps that growth may happen at a time. When the economies and the land values dictate that this operation is not feasible in this area, obviously that' s what, I think, could perhaps relocate this thing. But the other consideration, again, is, I think, the feedstuffs that have become available. You say, well it' s bi-products from big manufacturers . But it also has a market value effect on the farm production of Weld County because this is a lot of new material that' s just recently become available. And I mean thousands of tons . It' s not easily transported from Colorado to another state . It' s a bulky type commodity that, I think, is in such a volume that we ' re going to have to figure out how to utilize these feedstuffs and, in my opinion, lambs are one of the better animals to utilize these feedstuffs that' ll be available from Coors, Busch, Western Sugar and so on. CHAIRMAN LACY: Is that all you have at this time? MR. BRAGDON: Is that enough? CHAIRMAN LACY: Just a moment. I will see if the Board has any questions at this time for Mr. Bragdon. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: I guess I just want to, Wes , maybe more for you, Development Standard Number 8 requires a residential odor standard to be met. Is that correct? MR. POTTER: The residential odor standard is seven dilutions of clear, unpolluted air with one dilution of polluted air. It is possible to meet that standard. It' s a really restrictive standard, but it is possible to meet that with a well-managed 14 870421 facility. The applicant was informed of that level and he agreed to that level . I think it is possible . It' s not an unreasonable one . COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: For comparison purposes , what would ordinarily be the air standard? MR. POTTER: One to thirty-one . COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: And this is one to . . . MR. POTTER: One to seven. The industrial standard as adjacent to a residential area would be one to fifteen. And the standard that would be applied in an agricultural area would be one to thirty-one . This is a much more restrictive standard. This would be measured by the standard procedures , twenty-five feet off of the edge of the property line. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: For how, the length of time. Is that, you detect an odor in excess of seven to one after a rainstorm, or he couldn 't clean the corrals , or adverse weather conditions or something where they couldn't be , is that a violation where there ' s acts of God? MR. POTTER: Well, an act of God is not covered in the regulation for odor, and so, yes , it would be a violation and he would be issued a Notice of Violation and be given a period of time to come into compliance. In most cases where you're in a feedlot situation where you sustain a wet period you will see odor changes obviously, and in some cases you will find violations off of it. You don ' t find as frequent a violations off of lamb feeding operations as you do off of cattle because it ' s a 15 870421 different type of manure . It ' s not as wet and, therefore , it ' s not as easily soaked up during a rain. But yet the potential does exist in most cases , if it was just a shower it would not be a violation, but if, these long term rains , a day or two or like we have sustained within the last few days , it would be a potential for a violation in that case. COMMISSIONER BRANTNEP: Then, most of these violations are detected by complaints from surrounding neighbors? MR. POTTER: Yes , we do not actively surveil , get into active surveillance on anything, unless we have an on-going problem or we have indication of previous complaints or previous violations . But we would respond to complaints , course. We respond to every complaint that comes to the office. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: In a situation like the recent spell of weather, what would be the remedy for the operator at that point? Just wait until it dries out? MR. POTTER: Yeah. It'd probably be the most appropriate thing to do. In most cases it would be , yes. Where you get into problems, is if you' re in an area that is poorly drained and there are wet, soggy holes that fill with water and then stay there and turn anaerobic, and then they would continue to emit the sulfide-based materials which are the very high stench. In occasions , in a site like this , which is placed on a hill, on a well drained hill, which is the desirable aspect for a feedlot, to keep the animals dry in the first place, it would more easily 16 870421 drain off during a rain shower and would not be as predicated toward the odor problems. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: How temperamental are the settling ponds as far as odor? Are they pretty easy to keep in compliance with seven to one? MR. POTTER: Any pond can be temperamental if it' s not properly maintained and is not properly evacuated. Right after a thunder storm or right after a twenty-five year twenty-four hour event, the water that runs into the pond is then churning and running across the ground. It' s very high in oxygen and so there ' s a high dissolved oxygen level in the water and there is very little odor for the first few days during the time when that oxygen is being burned up by the biological process . At the time when the oxygen is depleted to where there is zero oxygen available in the water, and then the biota turns to an anaerobic biota, then at that point the sulfide based materials are produced and the odor does become very prevalent. That has been shown to be in a six-day period, six to ten days after the event, if the water is not removed. So it was our suggestion that, to maintain the odor standard of one to seven, that it be evacuated within six days of the time of the event. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: Now, let' s assume that there has been a complaint and you go out and find that there has been a violation over the seven to one , what is your procedure then for them? Could you explain to us what the. . . 17 870421 MR. POTTER: He would be issued a Notice of violation and would be given a time period to respond to the violation. The normal procedure is , that is ten days. And then, if he responded at that time, he would be requested to submit a plan to abate the odor and come into compliance with the regulation. Ongoing monitoring would go on at that time until he was back into compliance. He would be given a time period and/or a hearing. If he demonstrated an unwillingness to comply voluntarily, then a hearing would be set up and there would be another formal notification period that would have to go through , and in this case it would depend upon the time period that we issued the date for the hearing and the notification of the hearing, which would be at the minimum, another ten days. At that time , then, at the hearing he would be issued a Cease and Desist Order if he was found to be out of compliance and unwilling to comply with the regulations and there would be a time frame then set for him to come into compliance. At the end of that time period that he was given for compliance , if he did not come into compliance , then fines could be imposed up to $10 ,000 a day. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: After what period of time? MR. POTTER: After the time period that he had been given at the hearing. At the hearing he would be given a time frame to come into compliance . At the end of that time period, if he was not in compliance or not demonstrating a willingness or attempt to come into compliance, then he would be susceptible to the fines under the regulations . 18 870421 COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: But there are no fines prior to a hearing, then? MR. POTTER: No. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: If he is in violation, you give him a time period to come back into compliance, so there could be a potential period of odor out there then, five, ten, fifteen days, giving him a reasonable chance to come back into compliance? MR. POTTER: That' s true. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: flow really reasonable is the seven to one, with our weather? FIR . POTTER: It' s very restrictive for a feedlot, but. . . COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: I know it' s very restrictive , but, really is it reasonable that he could do that without being. . . MR. POTTER: Yeah, I really honestly think that he could, because of the fact that it' s on the top of a hill and it' s well drained and he ' s feeding lambs . There are three things that are important to consider in this situation; if he was down in a low area where the water would accumulate, where he would have trouble moving his manure because he couldn' t get in and out of the pens with heavy equipment, they' d get bogged down, or if there was a situation where the water wouldn ' t drain off, co that there would be stagnant water accumulating, then the potential would be more. Or if he had high concentrations of cattle, because cattle do have a much more of a negative impact on the pens because of the differential weight and the fact that they can really sink in and cause some real problems in the pens . 19 870421 MR. BRANTNER: And your opinion would be the same , then, for the settling ponds? It' s realistic to achieve the seven to one? MR. POTTER: Yes. It is realistic to do that, first of all because of the geologic site. The cursory evaluation that was done by the engineer and the proposal that he has outlined would have the ponds perched in a situation where they could be pumped and there is adequate area to pump the ponds , or the lagoons, back over onto the other farm ground that he would use, even in the winter tine. Yes. CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay, I 'd ask the applicant, at this time, if they have anyone else that they have for a representative to speak to this. We will give you a chance after discussion from the audience to bring forward any further evidence or answer any questions for rebuttal. MR.. RAY: No. CHAIRMAN LACY: You have no one at this time? Okay. I would like , before we start, to have a show of hands of those in the audience who are going to want to speak either for or against this in some respect. I would like to see a show of hands . Okay. I would ask then, that we limit those comments to your specific area and that we not be repetitious . If we get repetitious , we ' ll be at it until midnight. I would ask that if you agree with the person who spoke before you or someone who was up there before you, that you come up and say that you agree with that person and that you would like to just hack what they had to say. And I would appreciate it if we would follow that fairly closely. If we 20 870421 become repetitious we ' ll be here all night, and I don' t think many of us want to stay here that long. So , at this time I would ask that, if someone wants to speak for this , they come up, and we 're not going to limit you, I 'm not going to, but if someone becomes very long-winded, I will probably ask you to cut it off in another minute or something like this . But we will allow you to speak, we will give you time, and after you are finished, then the applicant can make note of the problems that people have brought up or things that have come up and, if he has any further information in regards to those questions or comments , they can answer them at that time. I would now ask that, let' s start over in this area, unless there ' s a specific , let' s start here . State your name and address very clearly and your reasons that you are here. MR. BILLINGS : Mr. Chairman, I 'm Glenn Billings , Weld County Road 66 , 14749 , Greeley, Colorado , and I 'm here representing the developers and the owners of the Golden Triangle , an area that we 've been working on for three years , five months , and I think that maybe we need to bring you up to date on where we 're at. I have prepared documents for you. Mr. Vern Nelson will be here. He ' s the engineer on the project. I will try to walk through the documents that I have presented to you, to bring you up to date about the Golden Triangle development, and I will read it as printed. I am here representing the owners and the developer of the property from Cleveland, Ohio , known as the Golden Triangle , a multi-use development of 1 , 806 .5 acres which is just two miles 21 870421 directly east of the proposed feedlot. I did drive this yesterday, and it is exactly two miles. The detrimental impact of a feedlot in such a location upwind would be an immeasurable in the development. You have to realize that over the next few years there' s going to be major things happening there , and we ' ll go on to explain that later. We've been three years, five months in getting where we are. We've taken the land through annexation, zoning, and planning, have prepared a feasibility study of some 86 pages which shows the tremendous favorable impact of tax dollars to governmental entities , and you will find attached some of the documents that show the growth factors over the next ten to fifteen, twenty years. The City Council has designated the area for the next city municipal golf course, which will be designed by the top golf course designer and one rated the very top in the nation, and will be considered a world-class golf course. This means that major professional tournaments could even be held on this golf course , would also be adequate for young, new students just learning to play golf because of the design and construction of the golf course . To give you a little background, this developer did design Castle Pines which now holds the international golf tournament down in the south Denver area. The developer' s now in final negotiations with the city on the golf course construction and the outlook is very favorable . We must not forget the former locations of Triple A Feedlot, which was located in the Farmers Spur area , and since that happened I have worked with the owners of the Farmers Spur area. We have 22 870421 dismantled the feedlot, moved it out, and we 've brought a new industry into Greeley known, as Loveland Industries, a subsidiary of ConAgra. We all can remember the comments of tourists and people coming through Greeley. They didn' t call it Greeley, they called it Smell City. With the ingenuity of Mr. Monfort and his people, and knowing the impact of the smell from the Monfort feedlot, which was not directly in front of the City' s growth, they did move their feedlot out in the Kersey area, downwind. To fully understand the impact on 666 acres between U.S . 34 and U.S . 34 Bypass , which is zoned Industrial , we have had major companies look at the land and have had very favorable interest, mainly because of the environment of the area. The State Economic Development Department , a year or so , was here and some of their members looked at the location for industry out there and indicated it was one of the finest facilities in northern Colorado. There' s already been spent in excess of one million dollars on trunk line utilities to serve the area . We are now in a position to move very soon on development, with the land under contract to Cleveland developers . We realize the need for agriculture feedlots , but we must look at the past trend for new locations and relocation of feedlots . It has been not upwind but downwind of City' s growth. And there is land equally suitable for feedlots downwind, and I think it' s very understandable in realizing that Farr Farms Company moved their feedlots on out further east of Greeley because of potential smell. It is very definite that the Monfort Feedlot in being moved out into the 23 870421 Kersey area eliminated a major smell in Greeley and improved the downtown area. I have submitted to you there, the next page , the proposed layout of what we call Golden Triangle North. This is just the north side of this development of 1 ,140 acres . See this parcel right in here is already preliminary platted , the golf course is designed in there, it does not show on this and I will let Mr. Nelson talk to you about that a little bit more later, but I can point out some things as we go along. This is a preliminary development. The golf course developer will design the entire layout, both residential and golf course, and a major part of the industrial land which you see down in the left hand corner of that page will be removed and will become residential. Your next page shows the exact location and the section and half section lines of the Golden Triangle development, and the red "X" will show you the location of the proposed feedlot. I 've supplied you with other draft and charts showing you the impact of the development in that area, which have been compiled by Nelson Engineers and have been adequately reviewed by the City of Greeley. And we' re looking at, in round figures , of more than 2 ,000 homes in that area, in all ranges , not just single family but multi-family and condominiums, a major recreational area along with the golf course design and development. You will note some engineering figures as to cost factors and a summary as to the generated tax dollars by the development, just of the north side , $69 ,203 , 090 . We've also attached, which I know you're familiar with, the Greeley Comprehensive Plan, which gets into this area, it does not narrow 24 870421 down but broadens out. We've also included a map which we did as an impact area that we looked at, that the people within those areas would very definitely have a desire to possibly live in this developed area or at least use the recreational facilities. I have talked, not recently, but with the mayor of Windsor, and they are very excited about the recreation facilities, the golf course that might be built there, and these are public golf courses, it' s not private, it' s for the general public, for everyone from the young beginner to the top professional. Mr. Nelson has been in contact with Great Western Railway, which you' re all familiar with, and we do have documents from Great Western Railway that this property can be served if we get an industry in there, in the industry land that needs rail. We were working with an industry that didn' t need rail, but you have a hard time competing with Pueblo when they give them 8 , 000 , 000 in free dollars, and this industry was interested enough in locating on this property that we went to the point of doing color concept designs for them on 80 acres. There ' s also of interest that, as far back as 1982 , that the State Highway Department felt that this area was so highly developable, and because of Kodak locating in the area just below this property that they did design a complete interchange at 257 and II.S. 34 and U. S . 34 Bypass. They have acquired between 60 and 80 acres out there for future growth in the area. Some of the other items which I would like to bring up which are just notes that I compiled from studies that have gone on and things we have done in the last 3 years , that with just one percent of the 25 870421 growth in Weld County, this entire development will develop out in ten to fifteen years . That means , if you' re looking at three people per family, and you multiply that by 2 ,000 homes , you know the type of population will be there . With industry coming in on that property, and we do have an industry that' s looking at it right now, whether a feedlot and a feedlot smell and looking down on a feedlot would change their mind I cannot answer that because they're not aware of this hearing or the possibility of a feedlot. The golf course construction will start as soon as we complete our negotiations with the City , and I note that some of the City people are here today and they may be able to comment better than myself as to where we are in negotiations , but I feel that we ' re very close to completing agreement with the City for the construction and the gift of the land and the gift to the City of the future golf course after it' s developed and the bond issue is paid off for the development of the golf course. There was a question brought up about the Hertzke Dairy. This is something else that is added into the total development. The Hertzke Dairy will be phased out. It will become an equestrian, I always have a time pronouncing that word, but it would become an equestrian facility for people living in the area who have horses, who would like to maintain horses. There will also be about 200 acres of this area that will be retained in its natural environment, and there will be horse paths , bike paths , jogging paths designed throughout this area for future use . If we compare the industrial value of land, 666 acres , to the value of the Kodak land who has 26 870421 buildings now on 360 acres , and determine the tax base to Weld County and the City of Greeley, and the school districts in the area, it is my fairly accurate understanding at this point that Kodak has, in round figures , $500 ,000 ,000 of construction completed at their area on 360 acres. We ' re talking about 666 , so if we could multiply that by two, you would see the major impact that this industrial property will have. I have already spoken to the State Highway acquisition of land for a major interchange. One of the interesting things , in studying the new Front Range Urban Corridor map which has been published in just the last year or two by the USGS people, it shows that the elevation at approximately the feedlot is 5 , 000 feet, and that the location of the Poudre River is 4 , 900 , and that the drainage basin directly from this property is directly to the Poudre River and right into Kodak. This is the drainage basin. My big question is , what happens when you have a storm like Greeley had here just two or three days ago and the water couldn' t get anywhere and cars were bumper deep, or the storm that happened up in Lucerne last Friday evening? If it were to happen in that area, a holding pond would have to be built that would have to be approved by the State as far as the size because it would have to exceed a nine foot dam to hold that water to keep from breaking and going right directly into the Poudre River which flows right through Greeley and right into the Kodak area. I have spoken to the service that we can get from Great Western Railway, and the other interesting thing about Great Western Railway which is a real key and a selling point to 27 870421 industry is the fact that Great Western Railway is served by both Union Pacific and Burlington Northern, one of the few connector railways that can give an industry guaranteed service to either railroad. We had worked very closely with a former partner in the ownership of the Denver Tech Center, who had looked very seriously at buying this property, and we were not at that time far enough along to meet his requirements . And if a man who was a partner in the development construction of the Denver Tech Center says this is one of the finest locations for industry in Colorado , then I think our prognosis of this location is the same. I 've completed my comments. At this point I do have other maps and documents I could show to give you an idea of the job it takes to put a project like this together. I did bring down all the title policies that we went through and spent almost six months in clearing the land, as far as easements and rights-of-way, that the land now is probably the cleanest piece of property in the developed area in northern Colorado and ready to go . That document back here is about that thick. I couldn ' t tell you the cost of that document at finalization, but it will be substantial. I know that Mr. Nelson in his engineering on this project is also substantial. The location of a feedlot directly in front of a development of this magnitude almost totally destroys the development that we 've worked on for three and a half years which will be the largest development in northern Colorado. Thank you. I ' ll be glad to answer any questions if you have them. 28 870421 CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Mr. Billings from the Board? Thank you. MR. NELSON: Mr. Chairman, I 'm Vern Nelson, with Nelson Engineers, 822 7th Street here in Greeley, Colorado. I , too, represent the same owners that Glenn Billings spoke about, and I 'm not going to repeat a lot of things that he has said. I have prepared a letter in behalf of those owners; I 've also prepared this map and I want to point out a couple of very specific things . I 'm going to highlight a couple of things from my letter, leave a copy with you, and then let others talk. I want to mention the fact that the proposed feedlot is on Highway 34 . The water mains that bring treated water into the City of Greeley run right through the property, drainage from the property goes directly north into a natural drainage into the Poudre River within the Kodak property, as you can see on the map, and into the Poudre River as it flows through Greeley. I think those are pertinent items, plus the fact that the predominant wind conditions are from the north and the west and will carry odors and dust onto Highway 34 and into the proposed development to the east of this site. There is no question that such a location would have a negative visual impact. I noted in reading the Planning Commission comments that they requested screening. Really, screening would reduce the view from Highway 34 , but screening can't stop the odor and the dust emitting from the site, and they definitely will have a negative impact on those people entering Greeley and the development of the area here . Now I want to mention that, as I 29 870421 said, I am representing certain owners there , as Glenn Billings is; those in the crosshatched area that are black are the ownerships that we are specifically representing. That represents some 2 ,000 acres, and it' s represented by Rick and Lawrence Hertzke , Harry, Elmer, and Emanuel Rothe, the Boreson Estate and family, Alex and Tom Coolidge, and the Monroe Corporation. Those are fairly important names to this community. We've talked about the substantial investment of the City of Greeley. I want to mention the fact that the City does have water rights agreements with owners of the Greeley and Loveland Irrigation Company, which encourages development west from the City because water is available from the transfer of that irrigation company to the City of Greeley. The drainage from the facility will probably cause a substantial decrease in property values for some distance below the feedlot. It' s also going to have a tendency to reduce the quality of water in the Poudre River. We realize that there are holding ponds, but we also understand that those ponds are to be evacuated under certain circumstances and, apparently, when that happens that will be untreated water draining off directly into the drainage basin and into the Cache la Poudre River across Kodak and into the City of Greeley. I mention the one other item, and that is the fact that feedlots are not necessarily compatible with growth patterns. Some cf you might remember, many, many years ago, when the Rothes had a substantial feedlot along Highway 34 west of Greeley at Sheep Draw, and that was a few miles from the City of Greeley at that time. But stop and think what has 30 87®421 occurred at that location now. Rothes were under pressure because of odors and other nuisances to move that feedlot. They did that, and today we have a beautiful Hewlett-Packard Manufacturing plant on that site, along with a lot of other development along Highway 34 , and I think that' s , the tendency is we just keep moving west and this is not a good site for a feedlot. We believe , the landowners believe that to approve this request is wrong and, frankly, that it would be a disservice to the citizens of Greeley and Weld County. And I 'd like to leave a letter with you, Mr. Chairman, if I may. . . CHAIRMAN LACY: Give it to Tom. It has to go as an exhibit. MR. NELSON: If you would like, I would leave this drawing that we have made as an exhibit, if you wish to have it. CHAIRMAN LACY: I 'd like to have it, sir. Is there any questions from the Board to Mr. Nelson? Okay. At this time I 'd ask the next person that wants to speak to come forward, please. Go ahead. MR. LONG: My name is James Long. I 'm the president of the Indianhead Homeowners Association. I live at 6914 Algonquin. We don' t seem to have been mentioned today, but if I could borrow your maps for a moment, we 're situated approximately a mile from where the proposed feedlot is. CHAIRMAN LACY : What direction, sir? MR. LONG: Southwest. CHAIRMAN LACY: Thank you. 31 870421 MR. LONG: We ' re not proposed--we live there . We have approximately fifty homes at this time, one acre lots . Custom built homes, and our life style is, we like the view, we like the clean air, and I listened to the rules and the regulations about the odor and the violations , but five or ten days , and this is less than a mile from us, so we 've got to put up with it. I spoke to an appraiser yesterday that told me that this would definitely devalue our property. I suppose most of you just got your statements yesterday. They just reassessed us , and raised the evaluation of our property. We kick in about $70 ,000 a year in taxes and we feel that this will hurt our value of our property. All the above reasons: the dust, the pollution, the noise, it' s gonna create more congestion. All the water doesn' t run down hill from my front yard. When I look at the site it' s uphill from me, so what impacts are going to have in the environment of my property and my neighbors, and I speak as a member of the board, we are an incorporated homeowners association, we're not commercial, we are residential, and we feel that to pass us this particular location is a real disservice to us. And we would appreciate if you turn this down. Thank you. CHAIRMAN LACY: Is there any questions for Mr. Long from the Board? Thank you. Next, please. MR. HAMMOND: My name is Lynn Hammond. I 'm an attorney residing in Loveland, Colorado, Room 418 , First National Bank Building. I represent Mr. Donald Leonard and the Leonard family interests , who border the proposed feedlot on two sides. They 32 870421 have a half section of ground here, a section of ground here, and a half section here and some additional land to the south, so I would imagine they're somewhat in excess of 1200 acres. They're immediately adjacent on two sides to this proposed use. I would like to have Mr. Dave Shupe come up and I would like to ask him a few questions so that I can pinpoint some concerns that the Leonard family has , and Mr. Shupe has written a letter. I would leave it with . . . CHAIRMAN LACY: Would you wait until you get back to the mike before you speak? MR. HAMMOND: I ' ll leave these copies. Mr. Shupe, would you state who you are and who do you work for? MR. SHUPE: My name is David Shupe. I 'm an engineer with Landmark Engineering of Loveland, Colorado. MR. HAMMOND: And what' s your background, Mr. Shupe? When you say an engineer, what kind of work have you done and how long have you been in the area? MR. SHUPE: I 'm a consulting civil engineer. I 've been in active practice for about twenty-five years in the Boulder, Greeley, Loveland area, Larimer County, Weld County, and so on. I 've lived and worked in Loveland for the past seventeen years. We've done extensive work with both the City of Greeley and Weld County, as well as Larimer County and other cities within it. MR. HAMMOND: And your work, would you say that you' re familiar with the development policies and the development of the area in Weld County and Larimer County? 33 870421 MR. SHUPE: Yes . MR. HAMMOND: When, you've been here and heard the testimony of the applicant in this matter, haven' t you? MR. SHUPE: Yes I have . MR. HAMMOND: A number of statements have been made with regard to controlling and containing some of the odors that might come from this undertaking. Have you ever worked in sewage control? MR. SHUPE: Yes. A good deal of my work is in that area. MR. HAMMOND: Have you worked specifically with feedlots? MR. SHUPE: Yes , sir, I have . MR. HAMMOND : And when you say you've worked specifically with feedlots, what kind of work have you done? MR. SHUPE : In the area of containment and treatment of wastes, specifically. MR. HAMMOND: And does that also necessarily involve a 4 concern of odor? MR. SHUPE : That' s one of the waste products, yes. MR. HAMMOND : Now, what is the last project you worked on in this regard? MR. SHUPE: Oh, my goodness. MR. HAMMOND: Was there a pig operation? MR. SHUPE: Oh. We worked with pig feedlots , yes, breeding farms , that sort of thing, dairy farms within recent years . MR. HAMMOND: And have you specific. . . 870421 34 CHAIRMAN LACY : Just a moment, sir . I 'd like to ask a question of Mr. Shupe, right at this moment, please . Mr. Shupe, do you consider there to be considerable amount of difference between a dairy operation and a dry feedlot? MR. SHUPE : I think what has been said by the Health Department is generally true, that there is a difference, yes . CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay, and between a pig operation and a dry feedlot? MR. SHUPE: In the sense that the animals themselves are different, there is some difference , yes. CHAIRMAN LACY: No, I 'm talking about odor problems . MR. SHUPE: In terms of odor problems, the treatment of effluent, or waste products, from feedlots are not markedly different in philosophy. They differ somewhat in degree, but not in philosophy. CHAIRMAN LACY : Okay, thank you. MR. HAMMOND: Pursuing that line of questioning, I think Mr. Lacy was getting to the point a little quicker than I was. I think this is a problem lawyers suffer. With regard to the problems as you see it, that might be incident to this proposal, can you identify those . MR. SHUPE: I think one of the basic problems is odor control. As a matter of fact. . . MR. HAMMOND: What about the other ones? MR. SHUPE: I am concerned particularly, as Mr. Nelson voiced a moment ago, about drainage and how it is contained and handled 35 870421 with respect to the natural drainage that goes through this property and to the Poudre River. MR. HAMMOND: Do you agree with what ' s been said with regard to the course and direction of the drainage? MR. SHUPE: Yes, I do. MR. HAMMOND: Now, when the statement was made that the way you control this odor is to contain it for about six or seven days, and at that magic stage when it begins to smell you dump it, where do you dump it? MR. SHUPE: That' s a good question, and I don' t think I have heard the answer here. CHAIRMAN LACY: Just a minute. Can we have it quiet in the audience, please . We 're trying to tape this. Would you please be quiet in the audience, please . Thank you. MR. HAMMOND: Go ahead, Mr. Shupe. MR. SHUPE: I have not heard an answer given to that, but. . . MR. HAMMOND: Well, from your understanding of what' s been said, what would happen? Would it dump to the north onto the adjoining property? MR. SHUPE: It certainly could. I . . . MR. HAMMOND: Well, where else would it go? MR. SHUPE: Well, the intention, I think, would be to haul it off somewhere else, rather than to dump it into the drainage . I don' t know that for sure because I 've heard no testimony. 36 870421 MR. HAMMOND: Then let' s deal with those two possibilities. If it is dumped in the sense that it is discharged, it would ge on adjoining property. MR. SHUPE : It certainly would. MR. HAMMOND: And at that stage , it would be at its odorous best? MR. SHUPE : I would think so, or close to it. MR. HAMMOND: And then, it does get into the Poudre River? MR. SHUPE : It could, certainly. MR. HAMMOND: Well, that' s where it ends up eventually, doesn ' t it? MR. SHUPE: If it is allowed to drain off naturally from this property, that' s where it would go. Yes . MR. HAMMOND: Okay, and then, what is the effect upon the discharge into the Poudre River? Does it contaminate the river? MR. SHUPE : It certainly does . MR. HAMMOND: Alright, let' s suppose it' s hauled off. Is there any rough way to calculate how many loads are required to haul off the effluent, or the discharge , or the results of 20 , 000 head of sheep feeding? MR. SHUPE: I 'm sure that there is a way to calculate it, yes. MR. HAMMOND: Would you say this would take a lot of trucks? MR. SHUPE: A lot, yes . 37 870421 MR. I'_PNNOND: Okay, now, with regard to the containment. We say that it is a flooding operation . What factors affect smell and odor? MR. SHUPE: Well , I think you 've heard a lot of them mentioned; temperature , humidity, the amount of rainfall , wind velocities , wind directions , all of these things would have significant effects . MR. HAMMOND: And is it a fair statement for just us laymen to understand that if it ' s a nice , good, warm, dry day and it hasn ' t rained for twenty days and the wind' s blowing the right direction, you won't smell anything from this operation? MR. SHUPE: I wouldn' t say you wouldn' t smell anything. The odor would be less under those conditions , certainly. MR. HAMMOND: Okay, and let' s say that you have the very worst of conditions--perhaps like we 've had the last week, where you've got a week of high humidity and you have a lot of rain, and then let' s say that ' s followed with some good warm weather. What' s gonna happen? MR. SHUPE: You ' re gonna generate some pretty good odors. MR. HAMMOND : And how far would that odor be expected to be noticable? MR. SHUPE: From my own personal experience , I would see no way that it could be contained in less than four to five miles, probably. MR. HAMMOND: Now, when we say that somebody is going to catch the rainfall, the twenty-five year storm or the one that we 38 870421 experience every year, although it' s not suppose to happen, or we experience throughout the summer, and we ' re going to catch this in a retention pond, is it possible to drain that so that it' s odor-free as soon as it' s drained or hauled off? What happens to the residue? MR. SHUPE: Well, I 'm not sure I understand totally your question. MR. HAMMOND: Well , let' s suppose that you've got a retention pond and you open the gates and run it down to the Poudre River, and then you close the gates . What happens to the pond? MR. SHUPE: Well, it smells for a while , until it starts to build up. . . MR. HAMMOND: Okay, and if you give somebody a citation and that you give them a period of time within which to correct the condition, then does that mean that whether or not there is gonna be a problem is how frequently it rains? MR. SHUPE: Well certainly the rainfall frequency is a factor involved in this. It is a repetitive cycle, and I think that' s perhaps what you're getting at. MR. HAMMOND: Okay. Then, if you have a situation like this , Mr. Shupe , and your experience and what you're stating here to the Commission, is it going to he possible, in all times of the year, to contain the odor within this property? MR. SHUPE: I don' t believe that' s possible, no. MR. HAMMOND: Would you say it' s going to be possible to contain it within two or three miles? 39 870421 MR. SHUPE: I ' d say that there is a strong likelihood that it is not possible. MR. HAMMOND: And you have heard a gentleman from Indianhead Subdivision, how far is Indianhead from this location? MR. SHUPE: Based on my map, it appears to be about half a mile . MR. HAMMOND: Would it be affected by this operation? MR. SHUPE : If the wind direction were appropriate , it probably would be, yes . MR. HAMMOND: Well now, don' t give conditions here. We ' re living in an age when things happen, and it does storm, and the winds do blow, and, in a given period of a year, is Indianhead gonna be affected. MR. SHUPE: Certainly, because we do get winds from east to west. MR. HAMMOND: Okay. Now, you've heard Mr. Billings testify here and make statements that there ' s been planned developments within two miles of this area, or two miles away from it. It that gonna be affected? MR. SHUPE: I would see no way in which it would not be affected, at least part of the time . MR. HAMMOND: How would you define neighborhood, if I were to ask you, "Mr. Shupe , tell me what the neighborhood of this particular proposal that we have to consider. " MR. SHUPE: I think neighborhood is a relative term based on sphere of influence . 40 870421 MR. HAMMOND : Well , if I was gonna go out there, and I was an energetic youngster that was gonna put up a Koolaid stand and I needed to have a permit for it, what would you say the neighborhood for that would be? MR. SHUPE : Well, walk-in trade, predominately, or drive-by trade, and in this neighborhood would be very small. MR. HAMMOND: When you're talking about a feedlot for 20 , 000 head of sheep, how would you define the neighborhood that might be affected by that? MR. SHUPE : I think its neighborhood is significantly larger, probably at least two miles in every direction. MR. HAMMOND: Well , now, you've indicated previously that this might be as much as four or five miles . MR. SHUPE: It could be, yes. MR. HAMMOND : Alright. If you are trying to discharge planning responsibilities adequately, are you going to plan for what likely is to happen? MR. SHUPE: I think you have to at least look at the possibilities of what can happen , yes. MR. HAMMOND: So it is possible, then, that this could affect a neighborhood up to four or five miles away. MR. SHUPE : I would think so, Yes. MR. HAMMOND: And there has been evidence here, statements today of people , two significant ones that are planned or proposed within two miles . 41 870421 MR. SHUPE : That' s right. MR. HAMMOND: Mr. Shupe, you have been asked to represent Mr. Leonard, specifically. MR. SHUPE: That ' s correct. MR. HAMMOND: And you know where his land is . MR. SHUPE: That ' s right. MR. HAMMOND: If this proposal is approved, what is his land good for? MR. SHUPE: About the same thing that it' s being used for today. MR. HAMMOND: Dry land farming? MR. SHUPE: Yes. MR. HAMMOND: Okay. Does any of the Commission have questions of Mr. Shupe? CHAIRMAN LACY: Does anybody have any questions at this time? Okay. Thank you. MR. HAMMOND: I have just a brief summarizing comment, Mr. Chairman. When I came to Greeley and I represented Hewlett-Packard in their acquisition of land west of town, they surveyed the entire community, and the land that they picked was west of town, and they did this because they felt that it was the most attractive entrance to the community. They felt that it had a superb view of the mountains . They also knew that it was in the opposite direction of some feedyards that you all have over here. They selected that area because they believe that the future of Greeley was going to go in that direction. When they came to 42 870421 Greeley, their proposed location when they talked to the Rothe brothers was at least as far from the City at that time as this feedyard is being proposed today. The point I 'm trying to make is that the applicant has a responsibility to show this Commission that the proposed uses which they intend to make of the property will promote the health, safety, convenience, and general welfare of the present and the future residents of Weld County. Now there have been two gentlemen who preceeded me; one where there is an existing subdivision, another where substantial sums have apparently been expended on planned, future uses. It is our contention that this proposed use not only affect the people that are out there, it affects the planned future uses of the area and that the area includes the neighborhood which is going to be affected by this proposal. This is not something that is going to be able to be confined and contained on these premises. Now there were a few comments made by the applicant. He said they had the support of Windsor. I don' t know how far Windsor is away, I imagine it' s about six miles. If I had my choice of having it within two miles of Windsor or up here on the hill, I think if I were in Windsor, I 'd give it my support, too. CHAIRMAN LACY: For your information, Mr. Hammond, it is within two miles of the city limits of Windsor. MR. HAMMOND: Of Windsor? CHAIRMAN LACY: That is correct. They annexed the property. MR. HAMMOND: Okay. I can' t be persuaded that when land values change significantly, that the applicant will relocate. I 43 870421 can' t be pursuaded that issuing citations for violations are going to curb the problem, because I think that when that happens it just means that there' s a period of time in which somebody comes in compliance , and what does coming in compliance mean? Does it mean dumping or making a discharge? I 've not heard whether or not the proposed effluent is going to be hauled away, or is the gate in the dam going to be pulled and it' s discharged down the drainage. I was also kind of taken back when the justification for putting it in this location is the fact that, the statement, "there ' s a junk yard there already" . I think you people have a beautiful entrance to your city. I think you have people already planning to enhance that and enlarge upon it. I certainly am not against people making use of their property, and enhancing the value and making their own personal use. I just think that the obligations that fall upon the applicant to convince this Commission that they have satisfied the concerns about present and future uses has not been met, and I believe that there are better places in Weld County to establish this. Thank you. CHAIRMAN LACY : Any questions for Mr. Hammond? COMMISSIONER KIRBY : Yes, I do have a question. How much adverse impact did the Hertzke Dairy have in Hewlett-Packard' s find to the, chose the particular site? It would be very similar in relationship. MR. HAMMOND: We ' re engaging in some hearsay here . I can tell you what I know, and that is that the investigation that was done , it was realized that that was phasing out, that the land 44 870421 uses were of such value in the area and were attaining such value that those uses would be phased out. And I think that the company in that situation didn ' t pay much attention to it because they didn ' t feel it was gonna be there very long. COMMISSIONER KIRBY: Isn' t it true that a dairy of that magnitude would have a much greater capital investment than a sheep operation to throw away and phase out? MR. HAMMOND: I don' t know that we ' re talking about the capital investment so much as , in the dairy business , at that time, having represented a couple of dairy farmers at that time, they were trying to find ways to get out of the business. I think the concern that we have is more with the odor that' s being resulted, and I think that the company' s feeling at that time was simply that that wasn' t gonna be a problem very long. In our communications with the City and the planning department of this city, it was fairly obvious to us that the lands being bought and who was buying them and the prices that were being paid for them were such that it was only going to be a period of time until there was going to be a significant change in the character of the use of the area. And I think that' s, for our concern here is that we ' re trying to say, look forward. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any further questions from the Board to Mr. Hammond? Okay. Next person up to speak, please. Come on up, don' t just, need to come up right away. MR. LIND: I 'm Ted Lind and I live just three-quarters of a mile downwind from this thing. But that ' s not my only reasoning 45 870421 for coming. We are involved in annexation on the hill, annexed to Windsor, and that' s two miles from the proposed lot. And all of 'ou know agricultural hasn' t been too great the last few years and I don' t want to see our investment go down the tube, and I think that' s what would happen with a feedlot. I was concerned about drainage, but that' s been brought up so I won' t go into that. But, the prevailing winds, I ' ll agree with you, they are from the northwest, but, in the evening, in the summer we always get breezes out of the southeast and that puts us in direct line to the odor. And there ' s another thing, I 've lived there all my life, I 've even farmed that piece of ground. A half inch of rain makes it impossible to move a truck. It' s a clay soil. An inch of rain and you don' t move for a week. Now he' s talking about moving this manure out, but you can' t when it rains. It' s just a fact that that soil gets saturated in the winter, and in spring you cannot move heavy equipment, and so I don' t think there' s been any planning done on that end of it. And my main concern is, that area is in a path of growth , and I don' t want to see it ruined with a feedlot. And that' s a fact. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Mr. Lind from the Board? Thank you. Next. MS . SAFARIK: My name is Rebecca Safarik. I 'm with the Greeley City Planning Department. Earlier this morning you received a letter from the Greeley City Council which indicated that, while the Council felt like an operation as is being proposed by Mr. Bragdon is an asset to the community, that the 46 870421 location is inappropriate , given the community ' s growth and development patterns . You' re also in receipt, or I believe, have among your files , the recommendations by the Greeley Planning Commission which also recommended objection to this use and , not to belabor any of the points that you 've already had with regard to this , but a couple of items I 'd like to accentuate that had a great deal to do with the Planning Commission' s evaluation of this concern. One is that by our calculations this proposed use is approximately 3 .3 times as intense as the animal unit intensity for the by-right agricultural sheep feedlot uses . Obviously, environmental impacts are paramount to the City' s interest in this . While it was felt that some screening of the area would help mitigate the visual impact, it was never resolved in the City' s mind that the odor and dust could be effectively mitigated. With regard to environmental concerns, I think the important thing to realize is that, again, as has been represented before, that by the time the odor is detected, the impression has already been made on the passing motorist or the individual visiting the community, and certainly the residents in the area . We have a severe concern that this will exacerbate the concerns that will be experienced by interest for development in this area. Another concern relates to the water transmission line. The City does have an easement that runs through that area. It' s been represented to us that , through our water department, that the only taps that are available to Mr. Bragdon are domestic taps for an office and house . We are not aware of any interest that he 47 870421 has, and I do not knew how he would receive water for his feedlot operation. Any permit to tap off that transmission line would have to be reviewed by the City Council and that has not been made . I think that the final statement that we 'd like to make is that we have reviewed development that ' s within two miles of our urbanized area. While we expect our long-range expected growth area anticipates urbanization, actual build out of this area within the next fifteen to twenty years, we have a great concern with the kind of entry ways that we have in our community. And our Comprehensive Plan specifically calls out activities and recommendations which would make sure that those important corridors that provide access to our community are protected and enhanced as much as possible . And the other Planning Commission recommendations that have been made with other similar uses accentuate and repeat and have been consistent with the environmental concerns that we expressed with regard to this use as well. If you have any questions I 'd be glad to try to address those. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Ms . Safarik from the Board? Okay. Next. Let' s come up. Just come on, please. MS. McKEE: My name is Alma Zeiler McKee, and I 'm here to represent Zeiler Farms, Incorporated, which is within 500 feet of the proposed feedlot. And I just want to say that we are against it. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions? I 'm sorry. Next. Come on up, if someone wants to speak, just right as soon as one 48 870421 speaker gets through, the other one please come up if someone needs to speak. MR. PLATT: I 'm Frank Platt, and we own Elder Dairy, which is just north of the proposed site . We are against it. Our reasonings are a little different than others. In some aspects we are concerned with the possibility of disease passing from the sheep to our registered dairy herd. I do have a letter from our veterinarian stating some of the problems and I would like to pass them out to you. (Whereupon Mr. Platt distributed copies of a letter to the Board. ) We do export cattle and our main concern is Blue Tongue. This was brought up at the other hearing and it got mixed up. Cattle do not die from Blue Tongue, but they become carriers, and if they are a carrier of Blue Tongue, then foreign countries will not accept them. We have exported cattle to France, Korea, the Philippines and Mexico and we feel that a sheep operation of this size , with sheep coming in from all parts of the country would make our chances of our cattle getting Blue Tongue a lot greater than what they are today. We also are concerned with dust pneumonia, dust coming from the feedlot and settling on our calves , and we just feel that a feedlot of this size is too big for this area and we are definitely against it. CHAIRMAN LACY : Do you have any questions for Mr. Platt, does the Board have any questions? Thank you. Next. MR. AAS : My name is Eric Aas and I am a resident in the northeast quarter of section eight, and I am only a resident there. I own 26 acres there , and it' s a nice place to live . The 49 870421 drainage , or where this water will eventually drain from the sheep operation, goes through the corner of my property. And I 'm concerned about the pollution aspects of that water going through there. And I am definitely concerned about the odor that we will experience there , so. That' s all I have to say. Thank you. CHAIRMAN LACY: What was your last name? MR. AAS : Aas . CHAIRMAN LACY: Haas? MR. AAS : It ' s spelled A-A-S . CHAIRMAN LACY: Oh. Okay. I didn ' t know whether it was Haas or Aas . Okay, are there any questions from the Board? Thank you. Next. MR. WEINMEISTER: My name is Garry Weinmeister. I live at 28649 Weld County Road 17 , just to the north of the proposed feedlot, and I would like to say that we are opposed to the feedlot for all of the reasons stated before, but I 'd like to address a couple of other reasons. And I think that the main reason is the human factor involved and the population density of that area and the fact that nearly all of the residents in that area are against this feedlot. Section eight alone has 15 houses on it. The Indianhead Estates Subdivision, which was mentioned earlier, begins one-half mile from this land , and I guess the thing that I 'd like to do right now is to present a petition that we circulated in the area . The petition says , "We , the undersigned, do oppose the proposed livestock confinement operation for 20 ,000 head of sheep to located at the southeast 50 870421 quarter of Section 8 , Township 5 North, Range 67 West of the 6th P.M. , Weld County, Colorado. " We have 62 signatures on this petition and we were not able to contact everybody within this area. But I 'd like to say that this petition represents signatures from the Indianhead Estates and it represents signatures from virtually all of the farmland to the west and to the north of that proposed area, from Highway 34 to the present Windsor city limits . CHAIRMAN LACY: You may present those to Mr. Barker, please . (Whereupon a petition was presented to Mr. Barker. ) MR. BARKER: Need to note it Exhibit P . MR. WEINMEISTER: And I would like to say I 'm not sure if those petitions are technically correct, but I think that the message is there . The people in that area do not want this feedlot located there. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Mr. Weinmeister from the Board? Thank you. Next. MR. KONKEL: My name is Mike Konkel. I 'm an independent business person in this town of Greeley. I 'm also in the agri-business deal. Been in this area for over ten years. I ' d like to take this time . I 've heard a lot of hype and rhetoric of what I think is , we ' re talking about speculation and what is going to happen out west in the Golden Triangle . As far as Mr. Bragdon is concerned, I think we ' re looking at a factual thing that' s gonna take place right now. And I 've worked with the agri-business very closely in this area, and I think, you know, if 51 870421 we go to look at our seal right up there, of Weld County, what we ' re talking about here in Weld County, we' re talking about agriculture. This is the agricultural base and economy in this County. I realize that as well as anybody. I think when I seen these charts and stuff up here , I wish they would have left them up here, but you got Winn' s feedlot, you've got Croissants down to the south, which Mr. Bragdon brought up. These aren' t 1 ,000 head feedlots, these are 2 ,000 plus head feedlots. They' re year around. I think if you was going to see an environmental impact, you would have already seen it from these feedlots . Also, you've got the Hertzke Dairy. And I 've heard some comments about health problems . I think that that' s all been stated here by the Health Department. That' s the reason we hire these people , is to do these surveys. And the Planning Commission has already approved this. So I guess , you know, I really can ' t, I can understand the concern and wanting growth in Greeley, but I think that Mr. Bragdon here, I 've known him personally for years , well-run and good operation. And I think that he needs , you really need to go along with the Planning Commission on what they've suggested. CHAIRMAN LACY : Are there any questions of the gentleman at this time from the Board? Thank you. I thought the map was supposed to be left here . I thought that was part of the exhibit. It is marked as an exhibit. MR. NELSON: It is, Mr. Chairman. And I was just taking it down, folding it up and getting it into reasonable . . . 52 870421 CHAIRMAN LACY: Well , let' s leave it up. Let' s leave it up, so we can look at it. MR. NELSON: Oh, you want to leave it up? CHAIRMAN LACY: Yes , if you would please . I would like to leave it up, if you would please . Yes maam, go ahead. MS . HARTSHORN: I 'm Judy Hartshorn. We live at 28653 Weld County Rcad 17 . We 're just north of the proposed site. Mr. Bragdon, we 're your neighbors. But I talked to Ed Skaggs last night and he said he didn ' t care one way or the other. His house is where your house , it ' s right by your house . We 're going to be right next to the sheep. The only thing between us and the proposed sheep is a ditch. We had about 1 , 000 head of sheep come on that land to graze, about eight or nine years ago. My oldest son has asthma and allergies and we had him on medication the whole time they were there. They got out, they ate our trees, the sheep herder poisoned the dogs because they chased the sheep off our land to keep them out of the trees . So, I don ' t have good feelings toward sheep. That was only a thousand head. I can 't imagine 20 times that. Also, everybody' s reasoning I agree with. I 'm against it for those reasons. The ponds that we have right below, well it was Jeffers pond, it drains right into it, it has flooded two times in the past three years , so bad that we 've had to rebuild. Jeffers used to irrigate from that land, so water would go into the pond, he 'd pump the water up to the top where he proposes the sheep to be, and it would naturally drain right back down into the ponds , so I don ' t think that there is any way we can 53 870421 keep the sheep remains from going back into that pond. Have any questions? CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Ms . Hartshorn? Thank you. Next. Gonna let you make it this time . MR. WEILER: Hello, my name ' s Brad Weiler, and I live at 28641 Weld County Road 17 . I live with my parents , it' s their property, and Mr. Bragdon' s feedlot will be directly adjoining our property. We don ' t even have a ditch in between us , so. . . I agree with what most people have said here cpposing it. I have a couple of letters here, one from my parents , one from the former farmer, Mary Mellon. He would like to explain a few things, so he wrote a letter. And, I do believe the reasoning that Mr. Bragdon wanted to use the east side of the said farm for the feedlot corrals was because it was basically unirrigatible because of lack of water and it would basically be dry-land and, in speaking with Mr. Mellon, he said there is a pump on the west side of the farm that has enough of a head behind it, you can run a ditch to the east side and irrigate the whole east side. The reason there is a pump in the bottom where the pond is is because Jeffers decided that was better to use that as a recycling pond, it was centrally located, you could re-use your water and get twice as much coverage out of the same amount. And, as far as the 25 to 50 year flood, well , it happens basically about every other year, which, let' s see here, I have it written down. We've lived out there , I should say, that we've lived out there for about 16 years , and we bought it in ' 71 . In ' 72 , ' 73 , ' 76 , ' 80 , ' 83 , ' 86 and ' 84 . It' s 54 870421 got where the top of the upper pond, there are two ponds, if I can find it, well, there ' s a pond here and a lower pond (indicating on map) . Mr. Bragdon has the upper pond and Mrs . Hartshorn and her husband and my parents share the other pond, and you can see, I 've got some pictures here if anybody wants to look at them, who do I . . . CHAIRMAN LACY: If you want to make those part of the exhibits , you may. MR. WEILER: Oh that' s fine. That' s what I got them for. (Whereupon Mr. Weiler submitted pictures. ) But, I believe it was the ' 84 flood, it actually washed a Volkswagen off of 34 into the median, upside down. That' s what kind of rains we get out there, and they' re almost every year. So , that' s my comment. CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay. Does the Board have any questions for Mr. Weiler? Thank you. Next. M.R. SCHMERGE : My name is Tom Schmerge. I own property just north of where they're talking about putting the sheep. It' s approximately three quarters of a mile north. Most of the ponds the people are talking about draining off of are ponds that are on a little stream that runs through there. There are also a couple other ponds in that area which are not running water ponds that do drain from this sane area. There are two or three ponds on the 47 acres right next to them that are basically standing water all year round. Those ponds feed a pond that is directly on my property, which is basically standing water all year round. Since we had the rain last week, it is running water through my pond 55 870421 right now, but most of the time it is standing water, and I am opposed to having any sheep up there that is going to drain water, ruin my pond. We currently use the pond for swimming. If you put sheep there , I don' t think it' ll be used for swimming at all. As far as the area not being developed, there are at least two houses that have gone in that area in just the last year, so I think it is a developed area. CHAIRMAN LACY: Is that all you have? Is there any questions for Mr. Schmerge? Thank you. Next. N.R. STROH: I 'm Dan Stroh. I reside at 0255 Weld County Road 46 , which is west of Berthcud, and I represent a whole different party in this particular matter, who happens to be the seller of this particular farm by way of his attorney and legal counsel in Loveland, Robert Ausenhus . And we have Stroh and Company Realty and Auctions in Loveland. Just very briefly, I 've sat and listened to this . We happened to be involved as an expert witness when Indianhills made a significant impact on an agricultural area, which happens to be zoned farming and agriculture, and the Amen Feedlot and the Frank Feedlots and the Croissant Feedlots and all of them were all there when the developers did choose to put that in. We also happen to be developers and have developed in and around Loveland and I have been involved in development in Weld County, and of course , as you heard, we reside in Weld County and have farms west of Berthoud. I was also interested to hear, and I have followed by way of the Loveland Chamber of Commerce, et cetera, the Golden Triangle development, and I find it a little 56 870421 bit interesting, just from the standpoint of a developer, irregardless of a agricultural concern, that I had this farm on the market for in excess of a year, for $1500 an acre to $1200 an acre, and had one offer on the farm, and that was from Mr. Bragdon. I am really overwhelmed of how desireable this property is and how big of an impact it does have economically to this area. And again, we were able to work with Weld County and Indianhills when they made such a negative impact on the agricultural community between Greeley and Loveland. I find another thing that ' s very interesting to me is why Mr. Bragdon , at all, would build a multi, hundreds of thousands of dollars , property investment in this property and buy 150 acres where he could have built a smaller acreage and then reside on the property himself and move his family on the property if he wasn' t going to take care of it. I also find it very hard to believe why he would build these hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of property and comply with the 19 requirements of the County, which are very very restrictive and very, very expensive. And I understand why the County would ask him to do that and I think that' s rightfully so. Where he has committed to comply with those stringent of development rules and then live on the property himself and spend extra thousands and thousands of dollars, as I 've seen his project, as I 'm sure all of the neighbors have very diligently studied his project, too, as to what the runoff rights and that type of thing would be. We 've got the Weld County Planning Commission, of which I happen to come over and sit through again 57 870421 on the behalf of the seller of the property. I might add, this farm happens to be in foreclosure and will go through foreclosure and the previous tenant that farmed this farm also went through a foreclosure auction. So, it maybe hasn' t been awfully economic for the whole area and for the County. I 've sat and we 've done a number of developments in and around and I 've listened to the County Health Department standards and we've, Mr. Bragdon has said that he would comply with that, he' s got a past history of compliance and of doing well with his neighboring areas and of raising the sheep. It is a lot of sheep, there ' s no question about it. It' s also a lot of revenue. It ' s also a lot of tax base. I just got my tax notice, too, and I know what Weld County is doing with the taxes . We 're looking for economic development. Economic development doesn ' t just mean a bedroom community. It doesn ' t just mean golf courses, it doesn' t just mean residences. It means revenues of all types. You happen to have an 80 acre minimum building lot requirement in Weld County, and I also found it interesting at the Planning Commission that a lot of the folks that got up and spoke , they had three acres , they had five acres. They went through the Special Review process on a consistent basis , as did Indianhills . Which is, of course , the same project that they ' re doing here . I also find that, with the Special Review process , with your 80 acre minimum building lot size is somewhat inconsistent with what all of the development and growth potential that Weld County all of a sudden is so concerned with, with the exclusion of agriculture . So , from that standpoint, 58 870421 those are just some of the comments that I wanted to make. Thank you very much. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Mr. Stroh from the Board? Thank you. MR. STROH: Thank you. CHAIRMAN LACY: Does anyone else care to speak at this time? Okay. Once again, I would ask if there was anyone else that would care to speak? Mr. Bragdon. and Mr. Ray, are you prepared for your comments and rebuttal to the comments made by the . . . COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: Mr. Chairman, in case they' re not, I might suggest we take about a ten minute recess . Would that be alright? CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay. (Let the record reflect that a short recess was held at this time. ) CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay, we will reconvene, and at this time Mr. Billings has two exhibits that he would like to . . . MR. BILLINGS : Mr. Chairman, these are two legal-size documents as far as your requirements , which I failed to give to you, even though I reduced these documents in the cover letter and material I gave you. One has to do with the Golden Triangle North, which is the residential and golf course area. The other is the legal survey of the entire property. (Whereupon Mr. Billings submitted the documents to the Board. ) CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay. Thank you. Okay, at this time we would then have the representative or his . . . Mr. Bragdon. 59 870421 MR. RAY : Mr. Chairman, I will be brief. Too much time is gone now. The people that took the longest in this hearing, I find it somewhat unique, for the Golden Triangle and for the Leonard family, did not bother, if you ' ll look at your records, to appear at the Planning Commission hearing. Now, there ' s a purpose for that hearing, so that they can voice objections , so the Planning Commission can take those into consideration in formulating their requirements . They didn ' t even bother to appear, so if their concerns are really so great and if they really think it' s such a problem, you would think that they would bother to appear at that. Obviously, we' re talking money at the Golden Triangle , and we 're talking about people who have vested interest. But the thing you've got to keep in mind is that, if it comes to fruition, and you don' t know if it' s going to, if it does it ' s two miles away. It' s two miles from this proposed site. We hear all this talk like it ' s really going to be an impact, like it' s right next door. But it isn' t, it' s two miles away. I would ask you to remember that. The homeowners in the area have complained, have objected, I should say. You would expect the homeowners to object. Everyone wants a park next door to them. But a lot of people want to live in the country, too. But they want to live in the country and have a park next to them. Well that isn't what they signed up for when they got their permit to build in the country, when they build in an agricultural zone. They have to take not only the good parts of that but the bad parts of that. The bad parts of living in an agricultural zone 60 870421 is, you're gonna have some agriculture business in the zone , hopefully. And these people that have complained, I want you to remember, not one of them has voiced any complaint about the dairies, the Hertzke Dairies or the other dairy or the feedlots . But they have all said, "We think this is what' s going to happen. " Those aren' t facts. Those are assumptions and forecasts , but they' re not facts. If you follow the complaints of the people here, and I submit they are nothing but conclusions and opinions, what they're asking to do is to throw out your own Planning staff, throw out your own Planning Commission and throw out your Health Department. Throw out all these agencies that have employed and you have working for you and take the complaints and the conclusions of these people that testified today. I would submit that' s not what your own ordinances call for. I -would also say that all we have from all these people is hearsay. You've got letters that we haven' t even seen, you've got all -kinds of documents that we haven' t seen, that somebody says something. We don' t even know what they say. But that' s not what you' re charged with. You're charged with accumulating facts and making your decision based on facts. The facts are that you have a man before you who has applied for a use that is permitted in this zone. You have a man who has experience in this kind of activity. You have a man who ' s gonna live on the property in question. You have a man that, during his experience never had a complaint filed against him. You have a man who is trying to put something viable into distressed agriculture economy, that is allowed for by your 61 870421 own Comprehensive Plan. And all the people in opposition to that are people who either chose to live in the country and now don't want to take the bad with the good or people who have a vested interest in saying this might impact what we ' re trying to do two miles away. But you don' t have any facts . And I submit to you that you are charged, that you must prove this unless you find that Mr. Bragdon has failed to comply with Section 24 .4 . 2 , 24 .5 , or 24 . 6 , because that is found in your own ordinance. 24 .4 .2 says you must allow the use unless you find that he is not in compliance . I will submit there is not one fact before this Board to show that he is not in compliance with all three of those regulations. We would ask you to direct approval. Thank you. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there any questions for Mr. Pay from the Board at this time? Thank you. I do have a specific question of the applicant if he would come forward, please . And I , there was some concern expressed, Mr. Bragdon, that, to get rid of the drainage , the water , it was lust going to be dumped out into the river, or into that drainage area. Could you explain, and I 'm not sure that you didn' t before , but would you explain that in a short few simple sentences what you' re planning to do. MR. BRAGDON: Right . I did speak to that, but I didn' t detail it at all. There ' s 150 acres on the whole Lot B and the row crop farming that is now, well it' s in row crop farming at present, will be converted to pasture . The reason it' s being converted to pasture is so we can evacuate the retention ponds for whatever waste water, effluent, would accumulate in the retention 62 870421 ponds back to the pasture. Where there' s a row crop farm, fair chances are that in certain periods of the year, for whatever the crop season progress might be, you could not evacuate the pond. If it' s a pasture, you could do that any time of the year. You could say, well you're not gonna get any soil absorption throughout the winter months when the soil is frozen, but chances are, when soil is frozen we ' re not going to get that kind of moisture accumulations that we' re talking about, in the 25-year, 24-hour storm. Those periods come in spring, summer and fall. That obviously provides for the percolation of the irrigation back of the effluent, which is just like reapplying farmyard manure back to the farm for fertilizer. It' s just in a liquid state , so, it would all be converted to pasture operations so it will enable that, Gordon. CHAIRMAN LACY: Is there any more questions, or any further questions for Mr. Bragdon? COMMISSIONER BPANTNER: Mr. Bragdon, is it possible to over fertilize? Could you reach a saturation point where you would actually burn your crops with that type of effluent? MR. BRAGDON : Not as far as the nitrogens in the waste water. I think a problem with applying fertilizer or manures to farm ground is the salt content of the manure and we feed minimal amounts of salts to sheep. Sheep do not require the salt that cattle do, so consequently the salt water in the waste -water runoff would be minimal. Nitrogens, no. If we were to try to irrigate a 40-acre parcel, perhaps, with the , you might see some 63 870421 possible burning from nitrogen content. But we ' re going to spread it out as much as we can so we ' re not getting any crop or pasture burning from nitrogen. COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: I ' ll direct my next question to Wes Potter. Is there an odor involved when they 're pumping this effluent back onto the pasture? I 'm assuming they ' re going to use sprinklers , now this water ' s out here going to settle. Is there an odor problem there? MR. POTTER: The potential does exist in any time. If the ponds are anaerobic at the time that they are pumping them, then there is a potential for odor. If they are aerobic at the time they are pumping them, the potential is dramatically reduced as to the amount of odor. The potential does exist for the water to have an odor problem if it is anaerobic at the time it is being pumped. CHAIRMAN LACY: Are there further questions from the Board to the applicant or to staff? I guess one question that I don' t know that the applicant was asked, I believe that it was, yes, but you do agree to the 19 Development Standards that are set up by the Planning staff and by the Health Department, you do agree to those? MR. BRAGDON: Correct. CHAIPMAN LACY: Okay. Thank you. I would entertain a motion at this time. 64 870421 COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: I will put a motion on the table so that we can get the discussion going and my motion will be to deny the application. COMMISSIONER YAMAGUCHI : I second that. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: I have , it seems like some of these are just so terribly difficult even to verbalize the thinking. I think we 've got a couple of issues here. In my mind at least. One is an issue of current compatibility with the operation, of this operation with the existing neighborhood. And the other is probably the more difficult issue, and that is the issue of planning and how far ahead we can look and how much we think will happen. And I guess I, in my own mind, liken that problem to the problem I 'm facing right now with the raising of two teenagers . I think in both cases you have to look a long ways ahead as you look to an end product. I think it' s easy to get discouraged. In the case of teenagers, for reasons that are obvious. In the case of planning, for reasons of bad economic times or lack of activity or whatever. So I think what you have to do in both cases is to look for certain indicators on which to base your judgments and your outlook for the future. In the case of kids , I guess you look at the family environment, you look at the influence of their peers, you look at their own history of behavior. In the case of planning I think the indicators include things like the long-range plans of surrounding municipalities. Not only those long-range plans , but how willing have the municipalities been to back those plans up with some actual activity. I think you look at 65 870421 historical growth patterns . What' s happened over a period of ten or twenty years, where has development occurred, what has happened historically. And I guess , based on those things, it seems to me we find ourselves here, kind of, and what often happens is you look at economic development in an area, you have some real conflict. On the one hand the development of agricultural activity and agri-business such as this one is, is highly desirable for many of the reasons that the applicant outlined. But if that activity is located in such a spot that it, in your view, in the future will limit other kinds of economic development, then I think you have the responsibility as a planning agency to prevent that conflict in the future, based on what you believe is going to happen. Therefore, I guess I , this is kind of a long way of getting around saying that, in the standards to which we apply for our findings I think it' s fair to say that I do not find, based on my view of what' s going to happen in the future, based upon the indicators that the testimony has been presented to us, the development of the Golden Triangle, the potential there, the existence of Kodak, the existence of some other industry, the general trend towards westward development in this area, I would say that the uses will not be compatible with the future development of the surrounding area as permitted by the existing zone and the future development projected by the Comprehensive Plan of the County and the adopted Master Plans of the affected municipalities . I would additionally say that there are still doubts in my mind, despite the testimony, and because of 66 870421 the testimony, both, that the Development Standards do provide for adequate protection of the safety, health and welfare of the inhabitants , and we do have substantial number of people present who live in the area who have raised, I think, valid concerns about the ability of the applicant to not affect the health, safety and welfare of their lives . So, for those two reasons, I move for the denial of this application. CHAIRMAN LACY: Motion to deny the application by Jackie and seconded by Frank. Further discussion by the Board? COMMISSIONER BRANTNER: I ' ll make a short comment. I 'm going to vote for the motion. I would agree with everything that Jackie has said. My philosophy has been when I came onto the Board, and I think it still is the same, that a person should have the right to do with his property as he sees fit. If he wants to turn it on end, or if he wants to do nothing with it, or if he wants to let weeds grow, he should be able to do that. That' s our freedoms. However, I don' t think that he should have an impact upon his neighbor. And I think that' s what' s happening here. It is a difficult decision. We need markets for farm products. This is an agricultural county. But I think this is the wrong place for this. It is not compatible with the intent that it is headed, and so, therefore, I ' ll vote for the motion. CHAIRMAN LACY: Further discussion? COMMISSIONER KIRBY: I don' t really have discussion. I will state the reasons down the list for my vote when the time comes. 67 870421 CHAIRMAN LACY: Okay. All right. I will do the same. I will , and I believe I would state at this time, I will vote against the motion. I believe that the proposal is definitely consistent with the Weld County Comprehensive Plan and I 'm going to go ahead with these and then I will vote at that time. It is consistent with the intent of the district in which the use is located and it is compatible with the existing surrounding land uses at the present time. I will agree that it is not compatible with future development of the surrounding area, but we' re looking 20 years from now. We' re looking over a long time down the road, and at that time I would have to state in respect that many years ago I was before this Board and other boards , and at that time I agreed, as has been done today, to move my operation if the area ever grew into that area. That was some 20 years ago and I was only half a mile away and the area hasn' t grown yet. And so I think the man has , Mr. Bragdon has , said that he would move and I think that would be one stipulation that I would make him required if this were to be voted through. If it is located in an A District, he is using a diligent effort as he stated to conserve the productive agricultural land in the location for the proposed use. And I do believe that our Health Department and that the Development Standards that are here are as tight, tighter, than most standards in most areas. There ' ll be more odor in a cracking plant in Denver than there will be off of this feedlot. I feel that you can drive down I-76 and you get the odor from the disposal plant from Northglenn or whatever it is right along 1-76 68 870421 and I feel that we' re talking about much tighter regulations in this deal. So my vote will be against the denial. Do you care not to say anything at the present time , Bill? COMMISSIONER KIRBY: I ' ll go ahead and make my statements . This is as near a 50-50 decision as anything I 've ever seen, and as we go down the USR standards I ' ll address each one of them. I think it ' s obvious you do have three votes for denial , for the motion which would be denial. And I guess I will go along with that. And this is the most difficult decision I have had in six or so years, I 've ever had to go through some of these hearings. I 'm going to say first that the proposal is , and I ' ll underline is, consistent with the Weld County Comprehensive Plan. Very definitely. No question about it in my opinion. But this is another example of something that I have talked about somewhat when we were reviewing our Comprehensive Plan. It indicates that revisions, even though we just re-did it, are in order again if this is the decision of the Board today, and I think it is . We, I think, probably have evidence of some faulty zoning out there. Although it might not have been originally. The question that the proposal is consistent with the intent of the district in which the use is located. You know it' s almost a yes and no. It would be except for the Greeley' s newer annexation and the plans that are involved which is a valid consideration. It is within two miles of some dreamed-of and hoped-for growth at least, I would say. So that is a big question mark. That the uses which would be permitted will be compatible with the existing surrounding land 69 870421 uses . That' s also yes and no. It ' s compatible with part of the uses that are simply dry-land wheat farming, it' s not compatible with the hoped-for uses of many people that do have visions of development in their eyes, and there are some attractive acreages as well as a very attractive subdivision in the area, although I don' t think it would necessarily be that adversely affected if the lot is run as well as I think it would be by Mr. Bragdon. The question that the uses which would be permitted will be compatible with the future development of the surrounding area as permitted by the existing zone and with future development as projected by the Comprehensive Plan of the County, or the adopted Master Plans of the affected municipalities. Well, you have a yes on the beginnings of that and no in regard to the Master Plan of the municipality. So another conflict in our own set of USR standards. That if the use is proposed to be located in the A district, that the applicant has demonstrated a diligent effort has been made to conserve productive agricultural land in the locational decision for the proposed use. I think that' s a very definite yes. I think it goes beyond that, even. I think he' s making a use that will he much better than has been used in the past with that property, since it was a property that did tend to erode, was not, because of being cut up a bit and a little bit rough, was not even prime ag land probably, in some respects as a whole, for the farm, a very desireable plan for a mixed use of the feedlot and ag for production, and certainly a good economic support to the ag economy of the area by using bi-products and 70 870421 that sort of thing and providing much needed fertilizer for much of that area within a five or six mile area. The last item, that there is adequate provision for the protection of the health, safety and welfare of the inhabitants of the neighborhood and the County. I think this is one of the best presented plans for a feedlot of that size which, though the numbers sound big, is not an extremely large feedlot since lambs are, by our definition, roughly ten lambs to one animal unit. The setbacks, I thought, and the screening were addressed extremely well and the method of disposal of waste was addressed, I think, quite professionally and well and, with a man that' s a real professional in his business . So , as I say, we have probably the most difficult problem that I have seen, but it is the gateway to a growing area . We had overwhelming opposition from the residents in the area and I guess that does indicate roncompatibility with the area. So I ' ll vote with the motion. CHAIRMAN LACY: Further discussion by the Board? The motion by Jackie, seconded by Frank, is to deny. At this time we ' ll have roll call. (Let the record reflect that a roll call vote was taken and the motion passed 4-1 , with Chairman Lacy voting nay and all other Commissioners voting aye . ) CHAIRMAN LACY: The USE is denied. + 71 870421 t4D141 mEmoRAnDun WILD€ To County Attorney' s Office 00 July 10, 1987 COLORADO From Clerk to Board ' s Office submit Costs - Gary Bragdon USR Lee: We estimate the costs to the Clerk to the Board' s Office, concerning the Gary Bragdon matter, to be as follows: Copies - 3 files of 135 pages @ 106 per pg. = $ 40 .50 Clerk's time @ $16 . 00 per hour: Transcription - 12 hours Organization of files - 5 hours = 272 .00 Base fee for transcription = 45 . 00 TOTAL = $357 .50 Tommie Antuna Deputy County Clerk DISTRICT COURT, WELD COUNTY, COLORADO Case No. 87-CV-631 , Division I GARY BRAGDON, Plaintiff, vs . THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF WELD, STATE OF COLORADO, whose members are: GORDON E. LACY, C. W. KIRBY, GENE R. BRANTNER, JACQUELINE JOHNSON, and FRANK YAMAGUCHI , Defendants . NOTICE TO: WELD COUNTY ATTORNEY TO: ROBERT RAY, ATTORNEY REPRESENTING GARY BRAGDON NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the complete record of the proceedings before the Board of Weld County Commissioners concerning the application of Gary Bragdon for a Use by Special Review for a livestock confinement operation, was filed with the Weld District Court on the 22nd day of September, 1987 . Mary Ann Feuerstein Weld County Clerk & Recorder and Clerk to the Board E `L'` (..-13Y: a —,0 t 42 De rnuty County Cle k 870412 DISTRICT COURT, WELD COUNTY, COLORADO Case No. 87-CV-631 , Division I GARY BRAGDON, Plaintiff, vs . THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF WELD, STATE OF COLORADO, whose members are: GORDON E. LACY, C.W. KIRBY, GENE R. BRANTNER, JACQUELINE JOHNSON, and FRANK YAMAGUCHI , Defendants. CERTIFICATE OF HAND DELIVERY I hereby certify that a true and correct copy of the Record of Proceedings was hand delivered, on the 22nd day of September, 1987 , to the offices of the Weld County Attorney, and Robert Ray, Attorney for Gary Bragdon, at the addresses below listed: Weld County Attorney Robert Ray, Attorney ATTN: Lee D. Morrison 1122 9th Street, #103 915 10th Street Greeley, CO 80631 Greeley, CO 80631 Mary Ann Feuerstein Weld County Clerk & Recorder and Clerk to the Board EL f p', B4ttyCle �-rr-yr-«J I �. _ / l II ' \: of nrry:C 870412 r DISTRICT COURT, WELD COUNTY, COLORADO Case No. 87-CV-631 , Division I ORDER FOR PREPARATION OF TRANSCRIPT AND CERTIFICATI 1 �2RD irm z, vi` GARY BRAGDON, 0, , ' Y UTA SEW, Plaintiff, vs. GREW-Y. COLO. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF WELD, STATE OF COLORADO, whose members are: GORDON E. LACY, C. W. KIRBY, GENE R. BRANTNER, JACQUELINE JOHNSON, and FRANK YAMAGUCHI, Defendants. THIS MATTER comes before the Court upon the request of the Plaintiff for certification of the record and preparation of a full transcript of the hearing held before the Defendants on May 27 , 1987 , concerning Plaintiff ' s "Application for Use by Special Review" . As provided by law, and good cause appearing, IT IS ORDERED: 1 . That Defendants cause to be prepared a transcript of the hearing held before the Board of Weld County Commissioners on May 27 , 1987 , concerning Plaintiff ' s "Application for Use by Special Review" . 2 . That Defendants certify the record herein, which shall include the original or certified copies of the aforementioned transcript, together with all pleadings, applications, evidence, exhibits , and other papers presented to or considered by said Defendants; rulings upon exceptions; and the decisions, findings, and the actions of the Board. 3. That the preparation of said transcript and the cer- tification of said record shall be completed by the Defendants and filed with this Court, with a copy thereof to be provided to the Plaintiff, on or before October 8, 1987 4 . That upon receipt of a copy of the record herein, the Plaintiff shall notice this matter in for trial setting . Done in Chambers this 10th day of July , 1987 . BY THE COURT: DISTRICT COURT JUDGE 870412 DISTRICT COURT, WELD COUNTY, COLORADO Case No. 87-CV-631 , Division I CERTIFICATE OF MAILING (ORDER FOR PREPARATION OF TRANSCRIPT AND CERTIFICATION OF RECORD ) GARY BRAGDON, Plaintiff, vs. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF WELD, STATE OF COLORADO, whose members are: GORDON E. LACY, C. W. KIRBY, GENE R. BRANTNER, JACQUELINE JOHNSON, and FRANK YAMAGUCHI, Defendants . CERTIFICATE OF MAILING/I hereby certify that I have this 5 day of July, 1987 , deposited in the U. S. Mails, postage prepaid, a true and correct copy of the "Order for Preparation of Transcript and Certification of Record" entered in this case on July 10 , 1987 , addressed to: County Attorney' s Office Clerk to the Board of ATTENTION LEE D. MORRISON County Commissioners P. O. Box 1948 Centennial Building Greeley, CO 80632 Greeley, CO 80631 870412 y y&per &/3o/g7 cLec� DISTRICT COURT, WELD COUNTY, COLORADO Case No. 8 7 C L1 / , Division YdEt9 CIVITY CBte!s IMINS uj�s ;771n SUMMONS SUMMONS l J �' \' a7 JUN 0i U GARY BRADGON, LC GREELEY+ <'0' Plaintiff , vs. THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF WELD, STATE OF COLORADO;--whose members are: -GORDON E. LACY,; C. W. KIRBY, GENE R. BRANTNER, JACQUELINE JOHNSON, and FRANK YAMAGUCHI, Defendants . THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF COLORADO, TO THE DEFENDANT ABOVE NAMED , GREETING : You are hereby summoned and required to file with the Clerk an Answer to the Complaint within twenty (20 ) days after service of this Summons upon you . If you fail so to do, Judgment by default will be taken against you for the relief demanded in the Complaint . If service upon you is made outside the State of Colorado , or by publication, or if a copy of the Complaint be not served upon you with this Summons, you are required to file your Answer to the Complaint within thirty (30 ) days after service of this Summons upon you. This is an action as is more fully described in the Complaint filed herein, a copy of which is attached hereto. h Dated this ( INC.. day of June, 1987 . ROBERT E. RAY, #6197 Attorney for Plaintiff 1122-9th Street, #103 P. 0. Box 1501 Greeley, Colorado 80632 Telephone: 351-6083 NOTE: THIS SUMMONS IS ISSUED PURSUANT TO RULE 4 OF THE COLORADO RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE, AS AMENDED & c.I : 'A $d "'r9 7-t'87 DISTRICT COURT, WELD COUNTY, COLORADO • Case No. , Division COMPLAINT UNDER RULE 106 , COLORADO RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE GARY BRAGDON, Plaintiff, vs . THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF THE COUNTY OF WELD, STATE OF COLORADO, whose members are: GORDON E. LACY, C. W. KIRBY, GENE R. BRANTNER, JACQUELINE JOHNSON, and FRANK YAMAGUCHI, Defendants. Plaintiff, by and through his attorney, Robert E. Ray, and for good cause of action against the Defendants, states and alle- ges as follows : 1. Plaintiff is now, and was at all times relative to these proceedings , a resident of Weld County, Colorado. 2 . Defendants are the Weld County Board of Commissioners and its duly elected members. 3 . On May 27 , 1987 , Plaintiff appeared before Defendants for a hearing in connection with his "Application for Use by Special Review" for a livestock confinement operation for 20 ,000 head of sheep. 4 . At the conclusion of said hearing, Defendants denied Plaintiff ' s application . A copy of the Resolution setting forth said denial is attached hereto as Exhibit A and made a part hereof by reference. 5 . It is Plaintiff ' s position that the Defendants exceeded their jurisdiction and abused their discretion in denying his application, for the following reasons: a. One basis for denial of the application was that the use applied for would not be compatible with the existing surrounding land uses. In fact, the proposed livestock con- finement operation would be located in an area zoned "agriculture" , and within two miles of the proposed site there are four feedlot operations and two dairy operations. BRAGDON VS. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, Case No. COMPLAINT UNDER RULE 106 PAGE TWO b. Another basis for denial of the application was that it would not be compatible with the future development of the surrounding area as permitted by the existing zone and with future development as projected by the Comprehensive Plan of the County and the plan of the City of Greeley. The evidence presented by Plaintiff showed that the proposed livestock confinement operation would be located in an area two miles from the projected growth of the City of Greeley, and two miles from the projected growth of the Town of Windsor. The Town of Windsor approved the proposed site; and the City of Greeley objected to the proposed site, stating that it would be in conflict with its proposed development. Plaintiff believes that it is an abuse of discretion for the Defendants to find that an area which is located two miles away from any proposed development could possibly be incompatible with such development. Furthermore, Plaintiff agreed that if , in fact, the site became incompatible in the future with actual growth of the City of Greeley, the site would be vacated . c. The final basis for denial of the application was that it was doubtful that there was adequate provision for the protection of the health , safety , and welfare of the inhabitants of the neighborhood and County. The Weld County Planning Department set forth nineteen "Development Standards" which were required to be complied with by the Plaintiff in order to provide for the adequate protection of the health, safety, and welfare of the inhabitants of the neighborhood and County. Furthermore, the Weld County Health Department approved the proposed site. 6 . The denial of Plaintiff ' s application by Defendants has left Plaintiff with no plain, speedy , and adequate remedy other- wise provided by law, and Plaintiff is therefore entitled to review by this Court. WHEREFORE, Plaintiff requests relief as follows: A. An Order that the Defendants certify the record and a full transcript of the subject hearing, on or before a date set by the Court. B. A finding that the Defendants have abused their discre- tion and acted outside of their jurisdiction in denying Plaintiff ' s application, and that Plaintiff has no other plain, speedy, and adequate remedy otherwise provided by law. BRAGDON VS. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, Case No. COMPLAINT UNDER RULE 106 . PAGE THREE - C. An Order that the Defendants grant Plaintiff ' s "Application for Use by Special Review" for a livestock con- finement operation for 20 ,000 head of sheep on the proposed site. Dated this p` G day of June, 1987 . Respectfully submitted, Address of Plaintiff: P. O. Box 608 rgt LaSalle, CO 80645 ROBERT E. RAY, #6197 Attorney for Plaintiff 1122-9th Street, #103 P.O. Box 1501 Greeley , Colorado 80632 Telephone: 351-6083 w (., OFFICE OF WELD COUNTY CLERK AND RECORDER ,•• • 11.1 DEPARTMENT OF CLERK TO BOARD MARY ANN FEUERSTEIN 4225 C. PHONE 13031 3564000 EXY:459 P.O. BOX 459 GREELEY, COLORADO 80631 COLORADO STATE OF COLORADO ) ss COUNTY OF WELD RE: RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS - APPLICATION OF GARY BRAGDON FOR A USE BY SPECIAl. REVIEW FOR A LIVESTOCK CONFINEMENT OPERATION I , Mary Ann Feuerstein, County Clerk and Ex-Officio Clerk of the Board of County Commissioners in and for the County of Weld, State of Colorado, do hereby certify that the following is a true and correct Record of Proceedings concerning the application of Gary Bragdon for a Use by Special Review for a livestock confinement operation, said proceedings being before the Board of Weld County Commissioners on the 27th day of May, 1987 . IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County, at Greeley, Colorado, this 22nd day of September, A.D. , 1987 . \719COUNT CLERK a O77,—nu o / 1, D putt' County Cle SEAL 1 I!'(`A' fill 870412 mE� 1 IORAf DU 1 wineToCounty Attorney' s Office oa„ September 17 , 1987 COLORADO From Clerk to Board' s Office subject: Actual Costs - Gary Bragdon USE. Lee: Upon completion of preparing the record concerning the application of Gary Bragdon for a Use by Special Review, we find our actual costs to be as follows : Copies - 3 files of 135 pages @ 10 per page = $ 40 .50 Clerk 's time @ $15. 00 per hour Transcription and proofing - 23 hours Organization of files - 8} hours = 471 .50 TOTAL = $512 .00 O TClTho ie Antuna. D puty County Clerk �304 /� C ,SU 198 NO. $ s/✓ D DOLL, RECEIVED OF �' �, „e� Lr" > /.2 FOR OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS BOAR WE COUNTY COLORADO MARY NN RSTElN,CLERK OF THE BOARD DEPUTY EORAflDUffl To County Attorney' s Office Date July 10 , 1987 COLORADO From Clerk to Board' s Office Subject: Costs - Gary Bragdon USR Lee: We estimate the costs to the Clerk to the Board' s Office, concerning the Gary Bragdon matter, to be as follows: Copies - 3 files of 135 pages @ 10 per pg. = $ 40 .50 Clerk' s time @ $16 . 00 per hour: Transcription - 12 hours Organization of files - 5 hours = 272 . 00 Base fee for transcription = 45 .00 TOTAL = $357 . 50 (c ! O To ie Antuna De uty County Clerk C/ C /2",&l ,-rte( 870421 ROBERT E. RAY 7-83 14 5 0 ATTORNEY AT LAW - TRUST ACCOUNT P. 0. BOX 1501 351-6083 GREELEY, CO 80632 82-138/1070 ¢� / 2.4S—V 19 79 c e Pordet ofe �U/L�� i �/ $ 2nP. 4 //�ia<A .0/44 /OO Dollars The Bank t of Greeley �� +.!n s,,..,,P Boa X 352.7030 G,wbv.Colorado 09W! Fot3O, ,,on t/h ( do tr /!0.,-1 W _ 000 L45011' t: L0700 L384t: 060740 . 11' ROBERT E. RAY Attorney at Law Gary Bragdon vs . 351-6083 Weld County Commxssi-oners 7-25-89 Case No. 87-CV-631 Dated: A. For your information. 'V 670 ED OF 198_ No. 4142 AOR - , .40206 /OD DOLLARS LetTi - BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS M WELD COUNTY COLORADO ARYA N F RSTEIN,CLERK OF THE BOARD p es UF.PI!Pl Hello