HomeMy WebLinkAbout830972 BEFORE THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION
WELD COUNTY, COLORADO
DOCKET NO . 83-29
CASE NO . 83-42E
EXCERPT FROM TAPE NO. 83-79
IN RE: BOARD OF EQUALIZATION APPEAL
by WILLIAM EGNER, dba PROTECT YOURSELF
JULY 26, 1983
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
CHUCK CARLSON, CHAIRMAN
JOHN T. MARTIN, PRO TEM
GENE R. BRANTNER
NORMAN CARLSON
JACQUELINE JOHNSON
ALSO PRESENT:
THOMAS 0 . DAVID, WELD COUNTY ATTORNEY
HERBERT HANSEN, WELD COUNTY ASSESSOR
BOBBIE HAAS , DEPARTMENT OF WELD COUNTY ASSESSOR
JEANNETTE SEARS , ACTING CLERK TO THE BOARD
PETITIONER NOT PRESENT NOR REPRESENTED.
830972
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CHAIRMAN CARLSON: We have a Protect Yourself. William
Egner. Are they here?
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: Nope, he' s not here. I know him
personally.
CHAIRMAN CARLSON: Do you know anything about it, Norm?
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: Nope .
CHAIRMAN CARLSON: Herb, what do you got on it?
HERB HANSEN: (Inaudible) change my consultant here for a
minute.
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: Oh, oh, this guy' s in trouble.
HERB HANSEN: This is Bobbie Haas , in the Personal Property
Department . I would like to just let her relate what happened on this
particular assessment of the personal property that this man has .
MS . HAAS : Well, in 1981 , we first sent him a personal
property schedule which we do all businesses that we hear about . We
have had no response from him for three years . The due date in ' 81 was
March 15th, and then the State turned it back to April 15th, to have
these turned in declaring their personal property. That personal
property is any asset that he might use to operate that business . Type-
writers , desks , anything. When I received his protest letter, I called
and tried to explain to him the arbitrary figure. To me he sounded
very anti-government, but he was not very happy with me because he could
not--he said I had no reason to place an arbitrary figure. By State
Statutes we are allowed to put an assessment on a business . Which I did.
Each year that he did not return this , automatically 25% is added on to
the previous assessment, plus he gets a penalty for not filing which is
15% of the tax dollar. I did check with the Treasurer' s office and he
is two years in arrears in the personal property taxes ; which they have
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sent delinquent taxes to him with no response. He says he has nothing,
but I noticed he typed his protest on both things . He' s got a nice
letterhead.
COMMISSIONER G. BRANTNER: What type of business does he have?
MS. HAAS : He won' t tell me. I'm assuming by his letterhead
that he' s . . .
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: You know those Spotlight Newspaper
that comes out? You find these. . . There' s a vending machine over there
by Republican Headquarters , "Spotlight Newspaper" . He distributes those,
and I don' t know how many of those machines he' s got .
MS. HAAS : He' s got machines then?
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: Those vending machines for newspapers .
MS . HAAS : He ' s got vending machines , and those are taxable.
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: That' s all I know about him.
MS . HAAS : Oh, well, see you know more about him than I do .
I know he' s got a typewriter.
COMMISSIONER G. BRANTNER: Well, how long do we let these taxes
get in arrears before we do something?
MS . HAAS : That ' s not up to us , that' s up to the (inaudible) .
COMMISSIONER G . BRANTNER: Is this normal to go two years?
HERB HANSEN: No, they should have sold him out last year. The
point is--that Bobbie is trying to make is--that under law, we have to
make an assessment , if they don' t give us the information we make an
arbitrary assessment based on the best information we have and by normal
procedures we add another 25% each year that they don' t file . The idea
is to get it high enough they're going to come in and file the report .
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MS. HAAS : Evidently, it 's not high enough.
COMMISSIONER G. BRANTNER: He might have a good deal going.
You know he might be under assessed.
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: It figures out $6 . 32 a year.
MS. HAAS : No , in ' 81 he owes $43. 62 ; 1982 , with the assessor' s
fees , is $63 . 58; and ' 83 will be more.
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: I had my zero and decimal in the
wrong place.
COMMISSIONER G. BRANTNER: Yeah, but what I am saying is that
maybe with all these machines and everything, he ought to be paying this
tax, he may be getting a good break here. That ' s the reason he doesn' t
want to talk to you.
CHAIRMAN CARLSON: Why, sure , that ' s why he don' t want to open
his door.
COMMISSIONER G. BRANTNER: But if I was him, I 'd be paying the
tax.
(Inaudible Conversation)
MS. HAAS : But we don' t have to stay at the 25%.
CHAIRMAN CARLSON: Do I have a motion for denial on this?
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: So moved.
COMMISSIONER G. BRANTNER: I ' ll second the so moved.
HERB HANSEN : I was hoping he ' d show up . I wanted to meet him.
COMMISSIONER N. CARLSON: Him and Chuck are pretty close, they
both weigh about 280 pounds .
MS. HAAS : Gosh, he was nasty to me on the telephone.
COMMISSIONER MARTIN: You probably assessed your assessment
too low.
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MS . HAAS : Well, we' ll get his attention, maybe. We don' t
have to go 25%.
CHAIRMAN CARLSON: We 've got a motion to deny and a second.
All in favor say aye . (All Commissioners voted aye) Opposed say no.
Motion carried. Thank you.
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