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HomeMy WebLinkAbout20032913.tiff RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS MINUTES BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WELD COUNTY, COLORADO OCTOBER 20, 2003 TAPE #2003-29 The Board of County Commissioners of Weld County, Colorado, met in regular session in full conformity with the laws of the State of Colorado at the regular place of meeting in the Weld County Centennial Center, Greeley, Colorado, October 20, 2003, at the hour of 9:00 a.m. ROLL CALL: The meeting was called to order by the Chair and on roll call the following members were present, constituting a quorum of the members thereof: Commissioner David E. Long, Chair Commissioner Robert D. Masden, Pro-Tern Commissioner M. J. Geile Commissioner William H. Jerke - EXCUSED Commissioner Glenn Vaad Also present: County Attorney, Bruce T. Barker Acting Clerk to the Board, Carol A. Harding Director of Finance and Administration, Donald D. Warden MINUTES: Commissioner Vaad moved to approve the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners meeting of October 15, 2003, as printed. Commissioner Geile seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. CERTIFICATION OF HEARINGS: Commissioner Vaad moved to approve the Certification of Hearings conducted on October 14,2003,as follows: 1)Violation Hearings;and a hearing conducted on October 15, 2003: 1)Use by Special Review,USR#1429-David and Annita Alvarez,dba Bethel Family Praise Center. Commissioner Geile seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA: There were no amendments to the agenda. CONSENT AGENDA: Commissioner Geile moved to approve the consent agenda as printed. Commissioner Masden seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. PUBLIC INPUT: There was no public input. 2003-2913 BC0016 WARRANTS: Donald Warden, Director of Finance and Administration, presented the following warrants for approval by the Board: All Funds $497,889.87 Electronic Transfers - All Funds $1,167.55 Commissioner Masden moved to approve the warrants as presented by Mr.Warden. Commissioner Geile seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. NEW BUSINESS: CONSIDER HEARING CONCERNING THE RENEWAL APPLICATION FOR A HOTEL AND RESTAURANT LIQUOR LICENSE FROM SIMON CORP,DBASIMON'S BAR AND GRILL: Bruce Barker,County Attorney, stated this renewal application was considered in July,at which time several outstanding Building Permits and a Site Plan on the property had not been completed. During the renewal hearing last year,the Board discussed these items with the applicant,and approved the renewa with the understanding that these items would be taken care of prior to the next renewal date. Since it had not been done, this hearing was scheduled. Mr. Barker stated there are one or two Building Permits for interior work, which have been finalized; a Building Permit for an apartment, which is outstanding; and a Site Plan, which has been conditionally approved by the Department of Planning Services,although there are conditions which need to be met before the process is complete. Jeff Reif, Department of Building Inspection,stated he has only inspected and finalized one permit for Simon's Bar and Grill. He further stated he does not have a record for the one discussed for the apartment. Kim Ogle, Department of Planning Services,stated staff provided additional comments for the Site Plan Review,and a meeting is scheduled with the owner of the Travelodge to review. Commissioner Geile stated he has serious concerns about safety issues for patrons in the building, and all Building Permit and Planning issues need to be resolved. He stated there are still a lot of open questions. Mr. Barker stated Simon Ryu,owner of Simon's Bar and Grill,was asked by the Board of Commissioners to apply for one Building Permit. He got the permit immediately and the inspection has been completed and the permit finalized. Mr. Barkerfurther stated Mr. Ryu has done everything the Board has asked him to do and he has been working with the property owners on the Site Plan issues; however, Mr. Ryu has no control over that portion of the property,and the Site Plan process has been moving slowly, although progress has been made. Responding to Commissioner Geile,Mr. Barker stated there is a lease between Mr. Ryu and the owner of the property. Commissioner Geile stated the applicant certainly would have protection in the form of a termination clause included in the lease,and the Building Permit and Site Plan issues all tie together on the total property;therefore,he has a hard time separating the two and feels all issues must be resolved prior to approval of the renewal. Responding to Commissioner Vaad, Mr. Barker stated the property could go into a violation status if the Site Plan meeting is not successful,in which case, Commissioner Vaad stated, the interest of the County will have been met. Commissioner Vaad further stated Mr. Ryu has provided everything asked of him and, if the owner of the property does not come through,all business on the property will cease. Therefore,Commissioner Vaad stated he is in support of the license. Commissioner Geile stated he does not want the issues separated since there is too much commonality in facilities, parking, staff, and maintenance; and all issues need to be completed before proceeding with the license. Commissioner Geile stated he is not in support of the renewal. Mr. Ryu stated he has done everything he can,and he does not feel his liquor license should be jeopardized because of someone else's failure to complete a process. He said it has nothing to do with his business and,although he has had his lease for many years, he is only the tenant and he cannot tell his landlord what to do. Responding to Commissioner Masden,Mr. Barker stated this matter may be continued to a later date until the outcome of the Site Plan meeting is known. However,Mr. Ogle stated staff approval was given on October 3,2003,and the applicant has 30 days to meet the conditions,therefore, November 3,2003,is the date a response from the property owner is required. Commissioner Masden moved to continue this matter Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 2 BC0016 to November 5, 2003, at 9:00 a.m. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Vaad, carried unanimously. Mr. Barker asked the Clerk to make the State Division of Liquor aware of the continuance. CONSIDER TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF WCR 11 BETWEEN WCRS 2 AND 6 AND WCR 3.25 BETWEEN STATE HIGHWAY 52AND WCR 16.5: Dale Elliott, Department of Public Works,stated Weld County Road 11 will be closed between Weld County Roads 2 and 6 on October 27, 2003, for a culvert installation. He further stated Weld County Road 3.25 will be closed between State Highway 53 and Weld County Road 16.5 for a bridge replacement and road construction, effective November 10, 2003. Responding to Commissioner Masden, Mr. Elliott stated the gravel companies hauling on Weld County Road 3.75 have been contacted, and they have made other arrangements during construction. Commissioner Vaad moved to approve said closure. The motion,which was seconded by Commissioner Geile, carried unanimously. CONSIDER NONEXCLUSIVE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR UPGRADE AND MAINTENANCE OF A PORTION OF WCR 147 RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN -CLINTON TAPPY: Don Carroll, Department of Public Works, stated this agreement is a Condition of Approval for Subdivision Exemption#967,which required an access agreement to be completed. Mr. Carroll stated the access is on the right-of-way known as Weld County Road 147,from Weld County Road 112,and is 60 feet wide,with 30 feet right-of-way on both sides of the center line. He stated all adjacent landowners were notified of this meeting. Commissioner Masden moved to approve said agreement and authorize the Chair to sign. Seconded by Commissioner Geile, the motion carried unanimously. CONSIDER PARKING LOT RELOCATION IMPROVEMENTS AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN-CHARLES AND ALICE GREENMAN: Mr. Carroll stated this is a followup agreement for Change of Zone#1026,which was fora Planned Unit Development adjacent to Union Reservoir. He stated an antique shop in the development installed a parking lot in front of the shop with a sign; and the agreement reflects that, upon expansion of Weld County Road 1, they will relocate the parking lot to the rear of the property. Mr.Carroll stated this agreement allows the applicant to meet Condition of Approval#2.G. Commissioner Vaad moved to approve said agreement and authorize the Chair to sign. Seconded by Commissioner Geile, the motion carried unanimously. CONSIDER MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING REGARDING ACCESS TO FOOD BANK PROPERTY AND ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS AND INSPECTIONS AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Mr. Barker stated this is a three-way agreement between the Weld Food Bank,City of Greeley,and Weld County,and it outlines access to the facility across property owned by Weld County, as well as how the County will issue Building Permits and inspections. Commissioner Geile moved to approve said agreement and authorize the Chair to sign. Seconded by Commissioner Vaad, the motion carried unanimously. CONSIDER CHANGE ORDER#1 FOR CHAMBERS SUBDIVISION AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN- LEVI CONTRACTORS, INC.: Mr. Warden stated this Change Order is necessary to close out the Chambers Subdivision Project,and it reflects the additional costs of the lift station,which was not included in the original contract. He explained State funds of $38,000 were included in the project; however, approximately $8,000 more was necessary to meet all the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment and City of Brighton requirements. Mr. Warden stated the project is complete and this will close out the paperwork. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Mr.Warden explained an additional 420 feet of lift was required, and it is at the end of the line; however, the big issue was operation in the event of a power failure. Commissioner Masden moved to approve said change order and authorize the Chair to sign. Seconded by Commissioner Vaad,the motion carried unanimously. Responding to Commissioner Wad, Mr. Warden stated the source of funds for the overage is General Fund reserves. Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 3 BC0016 CONSIDER RATIFICATION OF APPOINTMENT OF RAY PETERSON TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE WELD COUNTY LIBRARY DISTRICT:Commissioner Vaad moved to ratify the appointment of Ray Peterson to the Board of Trustees for the Weld County Library District. Commissioner Masden seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. PLANNING: CONSIDER RECORDED EXEMPTION #3648 - RONALD WARNER: Sheri Lockman, Department of Planning Services,stated this item and the next four items,Subdivision Exemptions#1000 thru#1003 for lot line adjustments, should be heard concurrently. She explained the current layout of the four Subdivisions, which is extremely linear, and stated the proposal is to widen and shorten each lot. Ms. Lockman provided aerial photos with current and proposed lot layouts depicted, with Recorded Exemption#3648 replacing Subdivision Exemption#1001. Ms. Lockman stated the lots are located along an abandoned Union Pacific railroad spur, and stated the City of Dacono has major concerns due to a Conceptual Site Plan they are reviewing for Dacono Estates,which would traverse the southern portion of these lots. Ms. Lockman stated a response was also received from Bob Swenson, Managing Partner for Dacono Estates, LLC, stating concerns; and the U. S. Department of the Interior and Reclamation has deemed the abandoned railroad spur to be historically significant, recommending it for inclusion on the National Register of Historic Sites. Responding to Commissioner Geile regarding the lots on the east side of the properties, Ms. Lockman stated she does not know the dates for approval of nearby Recorded Exemptions; however,all of them were under separate ownership. Ms. Lockman stated access would be from Weld County Road 8 for all of the lots,and Dacono has anenxed all the roads in the area and,therefor, has total jurisdiction and could require the applicant to access the parcels from the north. Responding to Commissioner Masden and Chair Long, Ms. Lockman stated the parcels together are a mile long, and, although there are some setbacks for oil and gas facilities, there are no wells on these lots. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Ms. Lockman stated the railroad is still in place even though it does not cross Weld County Road 8. She said it was an old spur,for which the right-of-way was sold to the applicant by Union Pacific. Prior to that a nearby landowner did a study to get the property declared historical, and it was designated as having historical significance. Responding further to Commissioner Geile, Ms. Lockman stated Dacono surrounds the parcels, it is near the Dacono trail system,and Dacono has jurisdiction over the roads. Commissioner Vaad commented all previously approved Recorded Exemptions have been required to have access determined prior to approval. Ms. Lockman stated the County has allowed the applicant to submit access agreements as a Condition of Approval. Ronald Warner, applicant, referred to an E-mail from Lee Morrison, Assistant County Attorney, to the Department of Planning Services, stating these are four separate legal parcels. Mr. Warner stated for Subdivision Exemption #1003 and#1002, he has to remove the tracks by the end of November, per his agreement with the railroad, and those parcels have always been deeded to Union Pacific. The parcel proposed as Recorded Exemption #3648 was at one time deeded to a subsidiary of Union Pacific, and consists of more than the railroad right-of-way. He said that parcel, along with Subdivision Exemption #1000, have been leased for agricultural purposes for years and have not had railroad tracks since 1909 or 1910. Mr.Warner submitted a letter from the Central Weld Water District,marked Exhibit B,concerning the installation of an 18-inch by 8-inch tee into the property, along with the installation of 20 feet of piping being stubbed out to the north fora future tie in. He also stated he talked to Mr.Carroll,who agreed he owns the north half of Weld County Road 8,and there has never has been right-of-way going through there. He stated the railroad owns the right-of-way on the south part of the road. Mr. Warner stated access from Weld County Road 8 is grandfathered in,since it has always been there and is a legal access,although he has no problem with showing a 30-foot easement from Weld County Road 8 running along the east side of the parcels. Mr. Warner stated all parcels drain naturally back to Little Dry Creek, and Bull Canal also runs through his property. Mr.Warner stated the regulations regarding historically significant properties are different when applied to an independent landowner instead of a developer. Therefore, since he will be using the parcels only as legal building parcels, he does not have to meet the historical impact Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 4 BC0016 requirements. Mr.Warner stated the City of Dacono is concerned about the size of the parcels;however, the smallest parcel is 105 feet wide, which is adequate, even if a 30-foot right-of-way easement were granted. He stated the City should not stop him from using his property as he sees fit and he would like to keep it agricultural. Mr.Warner said the City had a contract on this property a few years before he bought it; however,they let the contract lapse,and when the owner called them,the City said they were no longer interested in the property.Therefore,the property was available for him to purchase. He said the railroad has worked with the two trail committees, although he disagrees his parcels are a critical link to the trail systems, since there are two natural gas lines running through the property underground. Mr. Warner stated getting electrical or other utilities to the site does not create any problems. Ken Dell, Tetra Tech RMC, represented the City of Dacono, and displayed an area map showing the properties to be within the Urban Growth Boundary area of the City. (Changed to Tape #2003-40.) Responding to Commissioner Masden, Mr.Dell stated the property is eligible for annexation at this time and the area to the south of these parcels is currently in the process of being annexed. That process should be completed within 30 or45 days. Mr. Dell stated water and sewer are being extended into the area;the Dacono Comprehensive Plan designates this area to be medium density residential,with three to seven dwelling units per acre;and the area is also designated as part of the regional trail system, in cooperation with other entities in the area. He stated the railroad right-of-way, with its historical significance, is an important part of the regional trail system. Mr. Dell discussed the tremendous growth pressures in the area,and he stated numerous sections of the Weld County Code and Intergovernmental Agreement form a sound basis for denial of this application. Mr. Dell stated Urban Growth Policy 3.1 allows approval if all three conditions are met;however,not even one condition is met by this application,since the municipality is willing to annex the property and the property is eligible for annexation. He stated the proposed use and service impacts are consistent with urban type uses. He discussed the importance of continuity of streets through this section, stating Dacono has been spacing streets at one-quarter or one-half mile distances, which is necessary to handle traffic flow and emergency vehicle access. Mr.Dell argued that this proposal will eliminate the internal grid systems for interior development of the section. He also stated the proposal is not compatible with the Comprehensive Plan for the area, and it will be disruptive to genuine urban development. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Mr. Barker stated the definition of the term "development"in the Intergovernmental Agreement does not include Subdivision Exemptions;therefore,the agreement does not cover them. Mr. Barker further stated annexation is mentioned for Recorded Exemptions; however, the Board of County Commissioners can approve them without considering annexation. He stated where there is no minimum size requirement it is okay to approve them in the Urban Growth Area as long as it does not conflict with urban services. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Ms. Lockman stated this is not part of the Legacy Trail Project. Responding to Chair Long, Mr.Warner stated he will continue the hearing with only four Commissioners present. Karen Cumbo,City Administrator of Dacono,stated in 1999,the City did have correspondence with Union Pacific regarding the purchase of this property;however,funds were not available to do so. She submitted a letter regarding the property,dated August 27,2002,marked Exhibit C,stating the City would have been "willing to pursue any available legal options to acquire"the property. Regarding the trail,Ms.Cumbo stated all the regional plans include the trail traveling south on the railroad right-of-way to the ditch, then going southwest, and she has been working with the committee to continue along the railroad to either Weld County Road 6 or 8. Ms. Cumbo stated this area has an urban development requiring urban services; therefore, the water line was installed as part of the development. She stated the developers paid $3.9 million over the last several years on this project. Ms. Cumbo stated when she met with Mr.Warner, she was given a plan including eight lots, not four, therefore, the City's assumption is the property will again divide. Ms. Cumbo stated the spirit of the Intergovernmental Agreement encourages the City and County to work together in the area. Responding to Commissioner Vaad, Ms. Cumbo stated the City would have Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 5 BC0016 been willing to use eminent domain to secure the property. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Mr. Barker stated,since the Subdivision Exemptions are only doing lot line adjustments with this proposal,they would be eligible for further division in the future. Responding to Commissioner Geile,Ms.Gumbo stated the trail running through Subdivision Exemption #1000 is on the plan and is part of the Legacy project. Mr. Warner submitted a map of the regional trail, marked Exhibit D, showing the northern part of the trail does not pass through his property, since it is to the west on the railroad bed. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Mr.Carroll stated there is currently one access from Weld County Road 8. He further stated the road has been annexed by Dacono,therefore,the applicant would have to go through whatever permit process the City has in place, and will be required to designate a 30-foot easement through all the parcels. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Mr. Barker stated Dacono is required to give reasonable access to property; however, it can require terms regarding that access. Commissioner Geile expressed concern that these proposals could have significant development issues, since they are being structured as changes to the lot line. He stated, in looking at the Urban Growth area of Dacono, including recent and pending annexations, there is significant conflict with Dacono's plans. Commissioner Geile stated another concern whether access off Weld County Road 8 will occur. Therefore, he would recommend the applicant take his proposal to the City of Dacono and pursue annexation, since there are too many issues pending. Commissioner Masden concurred, and stated he feels these proposals would hinder urban growth and development. He further stated there are too many Comprehensive Plan and annexation issues;therefore,he is not in support of the requests. Commissioner Vaad stated he is very sympathetic to any property owner and their rights to develop their property;however, he is also concerned with Dacono's desire and ability to develop a major property and its goals for the trail, whether or not the trail is on this property. He stated it is a matter of record that the City would have been willing to use all legal options,including eminent domain,to obtain this property. He stated this decision will impact the fair market value of the property; however, that cannot be the concern of the County. Commissioner Vaad stated the access to the properties is going to have to be worked out, and it appears the City of Dacono is the proper authority for that. He also stated the property is in a growth area and the value of those properties are increasing. Commissioner Vaad stated he cannot make a decision in favor of the proposals without understanding the impacts of access, and future subdivision which could legally be done,therefore, he is not in support. Commissioner Geile moved to deny the request of Ronald Warner for Recorded Exemption #3648. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Masden, carried unanimously. CONSIDER SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION#1000-RONALD WARNER: Commissioner Geile moved to deny Subdivision #1000. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Masden, carried unanimously. CONSIDER SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION#1001 -RONALD WARNER: Commissioner Geile moved to deny Subdivision Exemption #1001. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Masden, carried unanimously. CONSIDER SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION#1002-RONALD WARNER: Commissioner Geile moved to deny Subdivision Exemption #1002. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Masden, carried unanimously. CONSIDER SUBDIVISION EXEMPTION#1003-RONALD WARNER: Commissioner Geile moved to deny Subdivision Exemption #1003. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Masden, carried unanimously. (Chair Long called a short recess.) Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 6 BC0016 CONSIDER REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF ROAD IMPACT FEES-ACTION PURSUIT PAINTBALL, LLC: Monica Mika, Department of Planning Services, stated this is the first appeal to the Board of County Commissioners of road impact fees. She reviewed the chronology for the appeal outlined in her memorandum to the Board dated October 14, 2003. Chris Gathman, Department of Planning Services, briefly reviewed the history of Use by Special Review Permit#1413,which was approved by the Board on April 23,2003. Ms. Mika stated the fee requested byAnthony Navarro,via his consultant,Diane Houghtaling, is$4,665.67. Responding to Commissioner Vaad regarding the entry dated September 24,2003,that the transportation study was complete, Ms. Mika explained when an application is submitted,the applicant has ten days to complete the required information. In this case,an incomplete application was submitted,staff requested additional information, which was subsequently submitted by the applicant, making September 24,2003,the date the complete application was submitted. Using that information,Peter Schei, Department of Public Works, provided an alternative fee calculation for the proposed fee of$11,415.54. Responding to Commissioner Vaad,Mr.Schei stated there was a misinterpretation of the variables that are supposed to be used in the formula resulting in a discrepancy in the values that were calculated. Diane Houghtaling,applicant's representative,stated she originally submitted the Impact Fee Independent Study using three similar land uses,including an amusement park,community recreation center,and golf course. Mr. Schei used the golf course and three employees, and she now agrees with the golf course comparison,which would generate 44.16 trips. However,she stated there are really two full-time equivalent employees,since the applicant has one full-time employee and two part-time employees whose hours do not exceed 40. Ms. Houghtaling stated she also disagrees with the new percent,which is included in the formula. She explained that when a new facility is built, normally the old facility is used by someone else; however, in this case,the flood plain is the existing facility,therefore, no one will be moving in to generate more trips. She is requesting those old trips be deducted since they existed prior to the impact study,which gives a total of$4,087.10. Ms. Houghtaling stated it is a new facility with no additional employees,and no additional trips added, since it is currently using another location. Responding to Chair Long, Ms. Houghtaling explained the site is vacant land,and they generate 19 trips per day at a different location. She further explained they will simply move from the other facility, not replace the other facility, although the same roadway system is used for both. Chris Fasching of Fellsburg, Holt, and Ullevig, acting as the County's contracted transportation expert, discussed the issue of whether an applicant can take trips from one location to another. He stated there are no rules established for the question,and this decision will set a precedent for uses of this nature. He said if the applicant is expanding a use and remaining in the same location there is good rationale forgiving credit for current trips; however,there is no application process established for this type of situation. He stated they are moving across the street and across the river. However, Mr. Fasching stated, using the lowest cost use,which is a mini warehouse,in the Traffic Impact Fee Study Table and applying the number of trips generated, the fee would be approximately$14,000. He stated Public Works has already used some discretion in the fee and is recommending $11,415.54. Mr. Fasching stated the Board needs to determine the policy on credits given when a facility moves. Responding to Commissioner Masden, Mr. Gathman stated the applicant did not pay impact fees at the original location, since they were approved during the time this application was being processed. Mr. Gathman stated both facilities will be in operation; they are not going to close the existing facility. Responding to Commissioner Geile, Ms. Mika stated previously access was considered in relationship to assessment;however,under the current amendment, seven roadways were identified and staff no longer considers access. Ms. Houghtaling stated the applicant will operate in both locations, although not at same time. She stated if one facility is open, the other is closed. Ms. Mika stated both sites are in the floodplain, and the new site is also in the floodway. Commissioner Vaad stated the transportation impact fees were not intended to have fees pay for the neglect up to that point, and he finds the argument about moving from one facility to another compelling. However, in looking at the figures if the lowest possible is $14,000, then a 30 percent difference was included by staff in assessing the fee. Commissioner Vaad stated he supports staff's recommendation of Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 7 BC0016 $11,415.54 and,therefore,moved to deny the request of Action Pursuit Paintball, LLC,for road impact fees, and to accept the methodology for staff's fee. The motion,which was seconded by Commissioner Geile, carried unanimously.Chair Long stated that although this facility is moving,the applicant is also developing what could be two sites in the future. RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES: The resolutions were presented and signed as listed on the consent agenda. No Ordinances were approved. Let the minutes reflect that the above and foregoing actions were attested to and respectfully submitted by the Acting Clerk to the Board. There being no further business, this meeting was adjourned at 11:30 a.m. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WELD UNTY, COLORADO ATTEST: aide/,� � ��'� E &a D id E. on Char Weld County Clerk to . ` > pvq 1861 (' �• %1O-'�.I Robert D. s en, Pro-Tem BY: !`/L _ &o - �. • Deputy Clerk to the' i j NI M. eil EXCUSED William H. Jerke rk Glenn a Vacf — Minutes, October 20, 2003 2003-2913 Page 8 BC0016 Hello