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HomeMy WebLinkAbout20100373 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS MINUTES BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WELD COUNTY, COLORADO FEBRUARY 17, 2010 The Board of County Commissioners of Weld County, Colorado, met in regular session in full conformity with the laws of the State of Colorado at the regular place of meeting in the Weld County Centennial Center, Greeley, Colorado, February 17, 2010, at the hour of 9:00 a.m. ROLL CALL: The meeting was called to order by the Chair and on roll call the following members were present, constituting a quorum of the members thereof: Commissioner Douglas Rademacher, Chair Commissioner Barbara Kirkmeyer, Pro-Tem Commissioner Sean P. Conway Commissioner William F. Garcia Commissioner David E. Long - EXCUSED Also present: County Attorney, Bruce T. Barker Acting Clerk to the Board, Esther E. Gesick Director of Finance and Administration, Monica Mika MINUTES: Commissioner Conway moved to approve the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners meeting of February 10, 2010, as printed. Commissioner Kirkmeyer seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. READ ORDINANCE BY TAPE: Commissioner Conway moved to read Code Ordinance #2010-2 by tape. Commissioner Garcia seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CERTIFICATION OF HEARINGS: Commissioner Garcia moved to approve the Certification of Hearings conducted on February 9, 2010, as follows: 1) Violation Hearings. Commissioner Conway seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. AMENDMENTS TO AGENDA: There were no amendments to the agenda. PUBLIC INPUT: Bill Downey, Independent Petroleum Association of the Mountain States, stated they are working to circulate a petition to be submitted to Ken Salazar, Secretary of the Interior, next week. He also referenced three position papers, marked Exhibit A, which discuss several issues Secretary Salazar is attempting to implement at the federal level, including a proposed royalty fee, which will reduce the competitiveness of western states and impact how natural gas is produced in Weld County and potentially reduce the corresponding severance taxes. Mr. Downey stated Secretary Salazar is also proposing changes to on-shore natural gas regulations which will create excessive public comment periods in an attempt to delay the permitting process, which is already adequately regulated at the State level. In response to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Mr. Downey stated the proposed regulations appear to create additional hurdles to the permitting process on federal lands. He further stated the Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 1 BC0016 (3-%7O /c �� current studies do not reflect any significant environmental or wildlife benefits, and he believes the current public comment periods are more than adequate. Responding to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Mr. Barker stated the proposed federal regulations are intended to preempt all local land use powers. He stated this issue was discussed two years ago when the Colorado Oil and Gas Conservation Commission (COGCC) regulations were being reviewed, and it was apparent, at that time, that this issue was going to be a problem. He stated the COGCC has taken a neutral position on the issue; however, it did express its intent to take priority over federal permitting. Commissioner Conway thanked Mr. Downey for bringing this matter to the attention of the Weld County Commissioners, and stated he did sign the petition today. Commissioner Conway commented the issue is not about updating regulations but, rather, it is all part of a larger agenda that is being pursued at the federal level to try to stop domestic oil and gas production. He stated, unfortunately, Mr. Salazar was very effective as a United States Senator in terms of blocking oil shale development in Colorado, and now he is using his powers as the Secretary of the Interior to make it more difficult to proceed with domestic production. Commissioner Conway further stated the proposed regulations could have a profound impact in terms of revenue that local governments receive, at a time when the nation should be doing everything to decrease dependency on foreign oil. He stated 40 percent of Weld County's budget revenue comes from oil and gas severance taxes, and the taxpayers currently enjoy low taxation as a result. Mr. Downey stated the proposed changes will also impair competition in the western states, because eastern states currently impose fewer restrictions on oil and gas producers. Commissioner Garcia stated he concurs with the previous statements, he commented this is a very timely issue as evidenced by the recent article in the Greeley Tribune. Chair Rademacher agreed and stated the Greeley Tribune did an excellent job of covering the story of the recent exploration of the oil field in the Pawnee National Grassland, and he anticipates there will be a lot of discussion regarding this issue. CONSENT AGENDA: Commissioner Conway moved to approve the Consent Agenda as printed. Commissioner Kirkmeyer seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. PRESENTATIONS: RECOGNITION OF SERVICES, NOXIOUS WEED MANAGEMENT ADVISORY BOARD - GUY GRIGSBY AND FREDERICK HEPNER: Chair Rademacher read the certificates recognizing Guy Grigsby and Frederick Hepner for their service on the Noxious Weed Management Advisory Board. RECOGNITION OF SERVICES, AREA AGENCY ON AGING - DON BEIERBACH, THOMAS GORDON, NANCY MEEK, AND JACQUELINE CRICK: Chair Rademacher read the certificates recognizing Don Beierbach, Thomas Gordon, Nancy Meek, and Jacqueline Crick for their service on the Area Agency on Aging. Commissioner Conway commented it is unfortunate that the recognized individuals were unable to attend today's meeting; however, they have been outstanding public servants to Weld County and he wants the record to reflect the Board's appreciation and he wishes them the best of luck in their future endeavors. Chair Rademacher concurred. COMMISSIONER COORDINATOR REPORTS: Commissioner Conway stated he and Commissioners Rademacher and Kirkmeyer, and Monica Mika, Director of Finance and Administration, attended an informative meeting with Susan Kirkpatrick, Department of Local Affairs, although he feels they left the meeting with more questions than answers. He thanked Ms. Kirkpatrick for meeting with Weld County representatives and for providing some direction for successful future grant applications in the future. Commissioner Conway expressed his surprise at the mention of criteria related to jobs, which was not a part of the original statute, application criteria, etcetera. He noted that if a portion of the criteria was related to jobs, he remains perplexed because Weld County has one of the highest unemployment rates in the State of Colorado, behind Mesa County, which should have improved the chances for a successful bid. Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 2 BC0016 Commissioner Conway also reported that at the last Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) meeting, the Board approved expanding the U.S. Highway 34 Express route to U.S. Highway 85, which will begin in April, 2010. He stated the expansion will institute bus service between the Town of Eaton and the City of Brighton as part of the U.S. Highway 85 Express. Commissioner Kirkmeyer stated yesterday's meeting with Ms. Kirkpatrick was productive in the fact that it confirmed for her that the application process is political. She stated, following discussions with the Executive Director of Local Affairs and the Director of the Division of Local Government, it was apparent that through their own guidelines and criteria, they have altered the intent of the both the statute and the program. She further stated after that meeting she met with Representative Massey regarding a Bill which would establish an interim task force to review the agricultural tax classification, which is very important to Weld County as the largest agricultural County in the state. She noted that although Representative Massey may pull the bill, he intends to proceed with establishing a task force with fewer legislative representatives and include more County and agricultural representation, including someone from Weld County, specifically. Commissioner Kirkmeyer also reported the TIF (Tax Increment Financing) Bill has passed the House and is on its way to the Senate. BIDS: PRESENT BID #B1000048, BULK PORTLAND CEMENT - DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS: Ms. Mika stated four vendors submitted bid proposals, and this bid will be considered for approval on March 3, 2010. She noted part of the consideration made by the Department of Public Works will be the location of the plant. Commissioner Garcia requested the specifications of the various types of product be provided as part of the bid recommendation for consideration by the Board, in addition to an estimate of the grand totals. In response to Chair Rademacher, Ms. Mika stated although there were no local vendors on this particular bid, the following items do include submittals by local vendors. PRESENT BID #B1000056, CONCRETE, WASHED ROCK, AND SQUEEGEE "ON CALL" - DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS: Ms. Mika stated eight vendors submitted bid proposals, and this bid will be considered for approval on March 3, 2010. She noted this item does include local vendors and staff will ensure total estimates are provided. PRESENT BID #B1000052, HOT BITUMINOUS MATERIAUASPHALT SUPPLY - DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS: Ms. Mika stated this bid will be considered for approval on March 3, 2010. APPROVE BID #B1000047, 2010 BRIDGE REHABILITATIONS - DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS: Ms. Mika stated this bid was originally presented on February 1, 2010, and the Department of Public Works recommends approval of the low bid from Weld County Construction, Inc., which is competitive with the Engineer's estimate. Commissioner Garcia moved to approve the low bid, as recommended by staff. Commissioner Conway seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. NEW BUSINESS: CONSIDER EXPENDITURE AUTHORIZATION FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Judy Griego, Director, Department of Human Services, stated this authorization was reviewed at the Board's work session on February 3, 2010. She stated Wagner Peyser and Work Force Investment Act funds will be used for the Summer Job Hunt Program, in the amount of $30,000.00 and $4,500.00, respectively. Ms. Griego explained the Program provides assistance to youth seeking summer employment, and the period of performance is from January 15, 2010, through August 31, 2010. In response to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Ms. Griego confirmed this authorization approves the funds; however, there may still be discussion on which organizations Weld County will be working with. Commissioner Kirkmeyer moved to approve said expenditure Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 3 BC0016 authorization and authorize the Chair to sign. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Conway, and it carried unanimously. CONSIDER MODIFICATION TO AGREEMENT FOR SUSTAINABLE MANUFACTURING SECTOR PLANNING GRANT AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN - UPSTATE COLORADO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT: Ms. Griego stated this agreement modification was presented to the Board at the work session on January 6, 2010. She stated the purpose of the modification is to continue utilization of the Upstate Colorado Economic Development (UCEC) to complete the scope of services in the original planning grant. She stated Sector Grant funds, up to a maximum of $26,000.00, will be reimbursed to the UCEC for costs associated with the services, with a term beginning November 16, 2009, and ending June 30, 2010. In response to Commissioner Conway, Ms. Griego stated the end of the term should be the conclusion of the planning grant, as well as the deadline for the report. Commissioner Conway moved to approve said agreement modification and authorize the Chair to sign. Seconded by Commissioner Garcia, the motion carried unanimously. CONSIDER AMENDMENTS TO CHILD PROTECTION AGREEMENTS FOR SERVICES WITH VARIOUS PROVIDERS AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Ms. Griego stated these amendments were reviewed with the Board at the February 3, 2010, work session. She reviewed each of the vendors, the services provided, and the proposed increases, as detailed on her memorandum, dated February 11, 2010, and stated all of the amendments have terms retroactively effective June 1, 2009, and ending May 31, 2010. Commissioner Conway moved to approve said amendments and authorize the Chair to sign. Commissioner Kirkmeyer seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CONSIDER CONTRACT AMENDMENT #6 FOR EARLY AND PERIODIC SCREENING, DIAGNOSIS, AND TREATMENT (EPSDT) PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Linda Henry, Department of Public Health and Environment, stated this amendment is a continuation of the contract through which the Department provides EPSDT services. She stated the term will commence March 1, 2010, and end June 30, 2010, with funding not to exceed $46,148.50. Commissioner Conway moved to approve said amendment and authorize the Chair to sign. Commissioner Kirkmeyer seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CONSIDER AGREEMENT FOR PROVISION OF INTERNSHIP EXPERIENCES AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN - UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN COLORADO: Gaye Morrison, Department of Public Health and Environment, stated this agreement will result in the extension of the existing program to provide internship experience for UNC students. She stated the term of the agreement begins January 1, 2010, and ends December 31, 2015, and the Department will provide clinical practicum experiences for Community Health, Dietetics, and Nursing students, provide a site supervisor, and work with the student supervisor. She stated the students are not compensated for their services, and UNC provides Professional Liability and Workers' Compensation insurance. Commissioner Conway stated this has been a very successful program in the past. Ms. Morrison agreed and stated most of the Department divisions have been pleased with the work of the interns and, on occasion, they are offered permanent positions. In response to Commissioner Garcia, Ms. Morrison stated the internship evaluation consists of a checklist provided by UNC in the internship packet which takes approximately 15 minutes to complete. She further stated the student supervisor does conduct one site visit at the Health Department, and overall, the program requires very little supervision. Commissioner Kirkmeyer moved to approve said agreement and authorize the Chair to sign. Commissioner Garcia seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CONSIDER TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF CR 35 BETWEEN CRS 38 AND 40: Janet Carter, Department of Public Works, requested the temporary closure of County Road 35, between County Roads 38 and 40, beginning February 22, 2010, and ending April 16, 2010, for the replacement of an Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 4 BC0016 existing bridge. She stated the average daily traffic count on County Road 35, taken in 2008, was approximately 129 vehicles; magnesium chloride will be used for dust control along the detour route; and standard signs and barricades will be used for traffic control. In response to Chair Rademacher, Ms. Carter confirmed the bridge is over a drainage way. Commissioner Garcia moved to approve said temporary closure. Commissioner Kirkmeyer seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CONSIDER INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR A JOINT SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN - WELD COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT RE-3J: Mr. Barker stated this agreement was reviewed by Deputy Alan Caldwell and the rate is consistent with the direction provided by the Board. In response to Chair Rademacher, Mr. Barker confirmed this agreement will provide for the continuation of existing services. Commissioner Kirkmeyer moved to approve said agreement and authorize the Chair to sign. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Conway. Commissioner Kirkmeyer commented this agreement is consistent with the terms previously discussed and, although the term of the agreement may be extended for up to two years, any extension will require separate action of the Board. There being no further discussion, the motion carried unanimously. CONSIDER MODIFICATION TO 2010 COOPERATIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATING AND FINANCIAL PLAN AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Deputy Alan Caldwell was not in attendance to present this matter. In response to Commissioner Conway, Mr. Barker stated following a quick review, it does not appear the terms of the modification are time sensitive. Commissioner Conway moved to continue the matter, for one week, to Wednesday, February 24, 2010, with the understanding that a work session be held to review the matter prior to the next meeting. Commissioner Kirkmeyer seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CONSIDER STATEMENT OF GRANT AWARD FOR JUVENILE ACCOUNTABILITY BLOCK GRANT FOR FEMALE OFFENDER PROGRAM AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Ken Poncelow, Sheriff's Office, stated this Statement of Grant Award is in the amount of $32,181.00, with a match of $3,578.00 to be made by North Range Behavioral Health (NRBH). He stated with these funds, NRBH will provide collaboration of crisis assessment and triage services for juveniles involved with the justice system. He stated the funds will also be used for the Juvenile Female Offender Program, which is run by the Probation Office of the 19th Judicial District. In response to Chair Rademacher, Ms. Mika stated these funds were included in the 2010 Budget, and Mr. Poncelow confirmed there will be no cost to Weld County, since the funds are awarded by the State and the match funds are provided by NRBH. Commissioner Kirkmeyer moved to approve said award and authorize the Chair to sign. Commissioner Conway seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. CONSIDER SMALL TRACT OIL AND GAS LEASE AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN - PETRO- CANADA RESOURCES (USA) INC.: Mr. Barker stated Petro-Canada Resources (USA) Inc., has submitted a Small Tract Lease for a one (1) acre parcel and paid the required $200.00 bonus. In response to Chair Rademacher, Mr. Barker stated all of the Petro-Canada agreements will be assigned to Noble Energy as part of the acquisition process. Commissioner Garcia moved to approve said lease and authorize the Chair to sign. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Kirkmeyer, and it carried unanimously. CONSIDER APPLICATION FOR COLORADO EMTS PROVIDER GRANT AND AUTHORIZE CHAIR TO SIGN: Lonnie Knudsen, Paramedic Service, stated the purpose of this grant application is to take advantage of priority safety equipment authorized by the Colorado EMTS Division. He stated this application is for driver monitoring equipment, and Weld County will be responsible for matching 25 percent of the grant award. In response to Chair Rademacher, Mr. Knudsen confirmed this will be for new equipment. Responding to Commissioner Garcia, Ms. Mika confirmed the match amount has Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 5 BC0016 been budgeted as part of the new ambulances line item. Commissioner Kirkmeyer agreed and stated this application is for grant funds which will help supplement the Budget. Commissioner Kirkmeyer moved to approve said application and authorize the Chair to sign. The motion, which was seconded by Commissioner Conway, carried unanimously. FIRST READING OF CODE ORDINANCE #2010-2, IN THE MATTER OF REPEALING AND REENACTING, WITH AMENDMENTS, CHAPTER 15 VEGETATION, OF THE WELD COUNTY CODE: Mr. Barker stated this Ordinance proposes to add a new Article III regrding Prescribed Burns, which includes language that creates limitations and prohibits prescribed burns in northern Weld County, specifically surrounding the Pawnee National Grassland, for areas exceeding three acres. He stated the specific area boundaries are north of County Road 86, west of County Road 157, and east of U.S. Highway 85. He further stated the proposed action is in response to a Public Notice, dated February 5, 2010, sent by Forest Ranger, Lori Bell, warning of the dry conditions which have occurred due to past weather conditions. Mr. Barker referenced Section 30-15-201, C.R.S., which allows the Board of Commissioners to pass an ordinance which bans fires and burning, and Section 15-3-60 of the proposed language provides criminal penalties based on the number of occurrences. In response to Commissioner Garcia, Mr. Barker confirmed governmental entities are not exempt, and exemptions are part of the definition of the prescribed burns. John Cooke, Weld County Sheriff, stated he has reviewed and supports the proposed Ordinance, as it is an effort to protect agricultural practices, while establishing wise land use during dry vegetation conditions. He further stated this effort will also help ensure properties and lives are protected from unwarranted burning. In response to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Mr. Barker stated the fines are similar to those charged for littering. Sheriff Cooke stated $25.00 is minimal, and although he does not want to gouge offenders, he would support a higher amount if supported by the Board, which may act as more of a deterrent. Commissioner Conway stated a prescribed burn conducted by a public agency previously escalated out of control, resulting in property damage and the use of public resources to regain control. Sheriff Cooke agreed and stated, although the Board of Commissioners advised against that particular burn, the warning was disregarded and surrounding property was damaged as a result of the burn. No public testimony was offered concerning this matter. Commissioner Garcia thanked the County Attorney and the Weld County Sheriff for their hard work on this subject. He stated the Public Notice cited the wet spring conditions of 2009 have resulted in tall dry grasses, and two uncontrolled burns have already taken place. Commissioner Conway thanked staff for working on this issue. He stated the proposed language appears to be establish a healthy balance to ensure the continuance of agricultural practices, while recognizing the very dry conditions and striving to provide for public safety. Commissioner Garcia stated the Board of Commissioners did speak with various agricultural representatives in the area who confirmed that burning is not a typical agricultural practice in the designated area, thus he does not expect an adverse impact. Commissioner Garcia moved to approve Code Ordinance #2010-2 on First Reading. Commissioner Conway seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. PLANNING: CONSIDER APPEAL OF DECISION OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR REQUIRING A BUILDING PERMIT FEE AND THE ASSESSMENT OF A ROAD IMPACT FEE — MICHAEL MILLER: Trevor Jiricek, Director, Department of Planning Services, stated Michael Miller has submitted an appeal of the assessed Building Permit and Road Impact fees. He stated Planning Services staff has compiled an extensive chronology of the contacts made throughout this case, and he recommends the Board uphold the fees, as they were established pursuant to the Weld County Code. In response to Chair Rademacher, Mr. Jiricek confirmed the building permit fee is $437.68, and the Road Impact fee Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 6 BC0016 is $1,987.00, and he noted the building permit fee was significantly reduced following recent Code revisions which allowed the amount to be pro-rated to recover final inspection costs. Michael Miller, County resident, stated he pulled the original building permit in December, 2002, for the construction of his home; however, a short time later he was involved in a serious auto accident which resulted in numerous surgeries, thus delaying the project beyond the expiration date of the building permit. Mr. Miller explained he applied for an extension of the building permit in 2008, and following a subsequent surgery, he is now physically able to complete the project; however, he is no longer insurable and is responsible for a majority of the medical bills. He stated the house is approximately 75 percent complete; however, due to timing issues, he is now being required to pay new fees, and he feels it is unfair to assess fees based on Code criteria that were created after the original building permit fee was pulled. He estimated the remainder of the project will cost approximately $45,000.00, and the addition of more fees will create a financial hardship, therefore, he requested waiver of the road impact fee and an additional extension of the building permit. He stated if his request is granted, he intends to complete the house within the next year; however, if the request is rejected, he is uncertain when the project will be finalized. He stated it is ironic that he served as a member of the Weld County Planning Commission when the road impact fees were considered, and at that time he argued that the road impact fee should not apply to farmers and individuals building a home on their farm. He also argued against requiring a full building permit fee for the renewal of an expired permit. Mr. Miller stated he is willing to pay for the actual cost of the remaining inspections. In response to Chair Rademacher, Mr. Jiricek stated the septic permit fee was previously discussed with Mr. Miller; however, it was not intended to be a part of this hearing, unless that is the desire of the Board. He noted the septic permit fee is $750, which expires after one year. Responding to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Mr. Miller stated he agrees that the reduction of the building permit fee is acceptable; therefore, his primary issue of appeal is regarding the waiver of the road impact fee. Mr. Jiricek explained a road impact fee was not required when the building permit was originally pulled; however, since it expired and a new permit is required, the Code explicitly states the fee is now applicable. In response to Chair Rademacher and Commissioner Conway, Mr. Jiricek stated Mr. Miller has been granted one extension of the building permit, he previously paid the septic fee, and staff is now requesting another septic fee since the original permit expired. Mr. Miller commented his impact to the road will actually be reduced once he resides on the property. In response to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Mr. Barker stated if the Board rejects the decision of the Planning Director, the matter is simply referred back to staff for further negotiation, as the Board does not have the jurisdiction to establish the fee within an appeal hearing. Mr. Jiricek requested direction from the board if his prior decision is rejected. Commissioner Garcia stated he appreciates Mr. Miller's situation; however, he is also concerned with the idea of applying the requirements of the Weld County Code differently for one individual. Chair Rademacher agreed and clarified, based on today's testimony, it appears Mr. Miller is no longer arguing the building permit fee, since it was significantly reduced. He further stated he wants to be consistent with assessed Road Impact fees, but he agrees that if the Director's decision is rejected, the Board needs to provide staff with some guidance. Commissioner Conway stated it appears Mr. Miller is facing financial hardship caused by an unfortunate auto accident, and he is in favor of sending this back to staff with the understanding that a road impact fee was not required when the project started. Mr. Barker stated the Board's decision will not set a precedent, since this is an appeal proceeding, pursuant to Chapter 2 of the Weld County Code. In response to Commissioner Kirkmeyer, Mr. Barker stated staff is bound to assess the fees based on the current Code, since the original permit expired and the new permit is subject to current Code regulations. Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 7 BC0016 Mr. Jiricek stated the Board will soon be reviewing the Road Impact fees based on findings provided by an independent consultant, and he proposed an indefinite continuance until after the Board completes that review. Mr. Barker expressed concern with an indefinite continuance, since this issue deals more with procedure, which will not be addressed by the consultant. Commissioner Kirkmeyer moved to uphold the decision for the assessed building permit fee, in the amount of$437.68, and reject the decision concerning the Road Impact fee for further determination by staff. Commissioner Conway seconded the motion, which carried unanimously, and suggested staff also review the septic permit fee, so that in the event Mr. Miller chooses to appeal that fee, the Board may consider all of the issues at one hearing in the future. OLD HEALTH BUSINESS: AUTHORIZATION FOR THE WELD COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PROCEED WITH LEGAL ACTION FOR VIOLATION OF THE COLORADO RETAIL FOOD ESTABLISHMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS - ALBERTO'S: Dan Joseph, Department of Public Health and Environment, presented the Board with a draft Stipulation Agreement, marked Exhibit A. He stated the facility voluntarily closed on Wednesday, February 10, 2010, the Department staff provided a Weld Star Training for the Spanish-speaking staff at the facility, and he personally provided an informal review of issues with the front wait staff. Mr. Joseph recommended reopening the facility, contingent upon approval of the Stipulation Agreement. He stated the facility has been cleaned and reorganized to facilitate a fresh start, and the plan is to reassign some of the staff to go and work in other facilities and bring in members of the consulting team to work at the Alberto's facility, thus resulting in a thorough review of the procedures. He stated the facility owner and consulting team have reviewed the proposed Stipulation Agreement; Alberto's has paid the $750.00 civil penalty; and staff intends to conduct two to three inspections during the next several weeks and then conduct one monthly unannounced inspection for the next six months. Mr. Joseph referenced Exhibit A and stated the facility operator is in agreement with the proposed change shown in item A, item B is being addressed because they are scheduled to have staff attend the "Serve Safe" training within the next three weeks, and they have paid the civil penalty required under item C. He stated item D addresses the requirement for maintaining cooling logs in 30-minute intervals, and item E requires that there be more than one person in charge to ensure continuous coverage. He further stated the facility has satisfied items F and G with the submittal of documents regarding short-term and long-term compliance goals, which has been reviewed and approved by staff, and item H was satisfied with the inspection that was conducted last Tuesday. Based on those comments, Mr. Joseph stated the Department of Public Health and Environment recommends allowing the facility to reopen on Thursday, February 18, 2010. In response to Chair Rademacher, Mr. Joseph confirmed the draft Stipulation Agreement was provided to the facility for review. Rachel Wells stated the consultant team and facility staff have invested more than 600 man hours since the last hearing, and they are continuing to provide cross-training among the staff at her facility in an effort to assist the Alberto's staff. She stated her head chef will work at Alberto's from 11:00 a.m., until closing time, in addition to four-hour shifts covered by various members of the consulting team. She stated despite the recent violations, Alberto's does have a long-standing reputation in the community and she believes this is a good solution which allows the facility to operate and identify any remaining issues of concern and address them immediately. In response to Commissioner Conway, Ms. Wells stated item E of the proposed Agreement is intended to address the primary issue of facility management, and they intend to have three to four staff members complete the "Serve Safe for Managers" training. Mr. Joseph stated an additional provision could be included requiring the submittal of the management structure within ten days detailing the assigned duties. Commissioner Conway stated it is very important to address the management issue to ensure this facility remains in compliance. Ms. Wells agreed and stated the owners/managers will also be completing the Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 8 BC0016 management training in an effort to provide them with the confidence to make appropriate changes, when necessary. No public testimony was offered concerning this matter. Commissioner Garcia thanked Ms. Wells and Ms. Morales for their efforts since the last hearing. He stated when this process started it could have gone many different ways and he commended Ms. Morales for her wisdom in taking the appropriate steps to make a difference and allow her facility to continue to provide quality service. He also commended Ms. Wells for her voluntary services in this matter. Commissioner Kirkmeyer concurred and also commended the Health staff for the excellent service to the public and for bringing important issues to the table to get matters resolved. Commissioner Conway agreed with the previous comments and noted this is a good example of government working for the public. He thanked Ms. Wells for her voluntary work and time away from her own establishment, and stated he is looking forward to having a burrito at Alberto's very soon. Ms. Morales also thanked the County staff, Ms. Wells' staff, and the consultant team for all of the assistance. Chair Rademacher agreed with all previous comments, and stated although the Board supports small business, they must also work to protect the public health. Commissioner Garcia moved to approve the Stipulation Agreement, as proposed, and permit the lifting of the voluntary suspension effective tomorrow, February 18, 2010. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Conway, and it carried unanimously. (Clerk's Note: Following the meeting, a fully executed version of the Stipulation Agreement, and copies of the proposed Plan of Action were also added to the file as Exhibit B.) RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES: The resolutions were presented and signed as listed on the Consent Agenda. Code Ordinance#2010-2 was approved on First Reading. Let the minutes reflect that the above and foregoing actions were attested to and respectfully submitted by the Acting Clerk to the Board. There being no further business, this meeting was adjourned at 10:36 a.m. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WELD COUNTY, COLORADO ATTEST: • \,) cY". Y—v Weld County Clerk to the B. E Douglab Radema her: Chair Illy S� i 18 61 CS• <3 ' 7flarbara Kirkmey r, Pro-Tem BY: Deputy Clerk to the BoT: k � ..u� Sean ay illiam F. Garcia EXCUSED David E. Long Minutes, February 17, 2010 2010-0373 Page 9 BC0016 The Honorable Ken Salazar Secretary of the Interior 1849 C Street, N.W. Washington,D.C. 20240 Dear Secretary Salazar: We, county commissioners and mayors from across the West, are very concerned about the effects your recently announced policies will have on jobs and rural economies in our region. The oil and gas industry is important to our counties, and your policies will put at risk many of the 300,000 jobs in the region dependent on the industry. Since our localities are in areas with large amounts of federal land, policies that make it more difficult for companies to develop oil and gas in an environmentally responsible manner will harm our economies, and decrease local and state government revenue. We are very concerned that your policies are putting western states at a disadvantage compared to other regions of the country without significant federal lands, and energy jobs and economic activity will migrate to those areas. Our economies benefit from the productive use of federal lands. By making oil and gas leasing and project approval more difficult, your policies threaten to delay the economic recovery of our counties in the longer term. Because the development of oil and gas on federal lands already takes considerable time, policies that further slow leasing and permuting will discourage companies from operating in our counties, and we will not experience the rebound in jobs and economic growth that we otherwise would as the American economy recovers. Our counties are proud to help supply clean natural gas that enhances American energy security and provides a meaningful solution to reducing greenhouse gas emissions. We respectfully ask you to consider the negative impact your policies will have on our rural economies, the jobs of our constituents, and the local government revenue that funds vital services such as schools, roads, and law enforcement Sincerely, at) Gl C>tg14 o"Air tk94 OW v\11. 6 YY.1^'1t 'a3' ronir it,,X , 2,_43,^,-� weld (e,„,-/-y G,—. , s s 2 o e7 er EXHIBIT I A ?ublic biSb± e J �� 5/E 44n/ Co n//f-✓47 o7' /ic. kk .((J.. C-E ,,C.. ((h4 (try Gr17277ftirt Jt'/r c.C c— Position Paper %war Western Regional Competitiveness I�j��'�J��1 jv�February 2010 This is an exciting time in our nation's history as the U.S. is leading a global renaissance in natural gas development, employing new technologies and millions of American workers to make an enormous domestic supply of clean energy available for many generations to come. The conventional wisdom about the limits of natural gas supply no longer holds true. U.S. natural gas supply is robust enough to shoulder a larger percentage of our nation's long-term electricity generation needs while also helping our nation wean itself from foreign oil imports by increased use in the transportation sector. American natural gas provides concrete solutions to our most pressing economic, environmental and energy security challenges. • This American abundance of natural gas is spread throughout various regions of the country. Highly productive shale gas plays such as the Marcellus in Appalachia, the Haynesville in Louisiana, and the Barnet in Texas are attracting a great deal of attention. However, the Intermountain West region has the second largest reserves,just behind the Gulf of Mexico. Regional Resource Assessment Summary Traditional Coalbed Gas Total Pot. Regions Resources Resources Resources Proportion PGC Area (Mean.Tcf) (M.L..Tcf) (Tot) of Total L48 Gulf Coast 455.2 3.4 458.5 28.1% Rocky Mountain 374.4 51.9 426.3 26.1% Atlantic 353.5 17.3 370.8 22.7% Mid-Continent 274.9 7.5 282.4 17.3% Pacific 51.3 2.6 53.8 3.3% North Central 24.0 16.6 40.6 2.5% Total Lower 48* 1,484.9 99.2 1,632.5 Alaska 193.8 57.0 250.8 Total U.S. (means)* 1,673.4 163.0 1,836.4 Data source:Potential Gas Committee(20091 'Separately aggregated total,not arithmetically additive. • The diffusion of reserves across the country means that companies have choices when deciding where to develop natural gas. State and federal policies that make it difficult and costly to operate in one state or region will cause capital investment and jobs to relocate to other regions. • Distance to large population centers where the majority of natural gas consumers live has been somewhat overcome in recent years with improvements in pipeline capacity. Intermountain West producers still face a price differential compared to other regions,and IPAMS Position Paper—Western Regional Competitiveness February 2010 Page 2 of 2 are particularly vulnerable to policies that increase the cost of production. Rockies wells tend to be fairly expensive compared to expected ultimate recovery.' • Policy proposals and new regulations are threatening to decrease the competitiveness of the Intermountain West. o Policy changes to the federal onshore oil and gas program proposed by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar will disproportionately affect the West,where the federal government is by far the largest landowner and 54% of the natural gas production is federal. The changes put Intermountain West states at a distinct disadvantage compared to other regions of the country where natural gas is developed primarily on private lands with less onerous permitting and regulation. o Onerous state regulations in Colorado and New Mexico have severely increased the cost to develop a well. Since the full implementation of these regulations coincided with the downturn in the economy, the full impact of these regulations will not be apparent until the economy recovers and we see if Colorado and New Mexico continue to lag behind other states. • The case study of Alberta is illustrative of the dangers of increasing the costs to develop energy in one region. In 2008, the Province of Alberta increased the maximum royalty rate for natural gas production from 35% to 50%. Operators now pay$165 in royalties before they show$100 in profit.2 o Alberta experienced a 42% drop in rig count and an 8% reduction in gas production between 2008 and 2009 o The new framework severely weakened Alberta's competitiveness with British Colombia and Saskatchewan o Alberta is now experiencing its first budget deficit in 15 years and recent reports show a net loss of oil and gas royalties totaling$2 billion since 2008. The average Rockies unconventional well costs around$1.8 million to drill and produces about 1.7 Bcf over the life of the well. Source:Bentek Energy. 2 Energy Navigator Study,Boyd Russell, http://www.energynavigatoccom/index.phormact=News cntnt0l detail 0&cntnl0l articleid=49&cntnt0I origid=15 &cntnt0l detailtemplatennews&cntnt0l returnid=24 Position Paper Interior's Proposed Changes to the Federal Onshore „sr Natural Gas and Oil Program MS n��� n/(�1 January 2010 lr At a time when the Obama administration should be embracing policies to increase employment, stimulate the economy, and increase production of American clean energy,Interior continues to make decisions that increase uncertainty and put at risk jobs and economic development tied to the production of natural gas and oil in the West. Rockies producers have achieved balanced energy development by providing 27% of America's natural gas while occupying only 0.07%of public lands. It is impossible to stand by silently while these job-killing proposals further hinder our efforts toward energy independence and have devastating effects on families and small businesses across the nation. Moreover, the revenue you are impeding from oil and gas leasing is the largest contributor to the national treasury after income tax. To stifle the growth of this industry in the midst of record-setting national deficit and unemployment levels is not only outrageous but irresponsible. Congressman Dan Boren p-OK) January 7, 2010 • Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's proposed changes to the federal onshore oil and gas program, announced in early January, create additional layers of red tape and ignore the Energy Policy Act of 2005,which passed Congress with bipartisan support,including then Senators Barack Obama and Ken Salazar. • The changes constitute a bureaucratic command-and-control system in which government bureaucrats rather than scientists and engineers with expertise in natural gas and oil development dictate where energy development should occur. The market-based system has worked well for decades, allowing government land managers to specify what lands are appropriate for leasing and leaving it to the geologists and engineers to do the exploration and nominate projects based on geologic and market conditions,with ultimate approval by Interior. • Wyoming's Democratic Governor Dave Freudenthal says it best; Unfortunately, the proposed changes potentially hand significant control over oil and gas exploration, development and production to the whims of those that profess a 'nowhere, not ever'philosophy to surface disturbance of any kind. With specific regard to the proposed changes, it seems as though the Department contemplates adding up to three additional layers of analysis into the existing leasing process. To my point, these reviews will be made irrespective of(actually completely devoid of in most instances)substantive seismic, exploration, or other subsurface data. Functionally, it seems that we are putting on two additional belts and two additional pairs of suspenders without even knowing if we are going to wear pants. The proposed changes are in addition to the existing leasing program, which already contemplates a land use plan, consultation with the states and their agencies ofjurisdiction regarding leasing decisions,project specific NEPA, an application for permit to drill and compliance with state wildlife, air, water and land quality protections. I question the need for so many reviews, especially when leasing is such a small part of the development equation. IPAMS Position Paper—Interior's Proposed Changes to the Onshore Natural Gas &Oil Program January 2010 Page 2 of 3 • Secretary Salazar claims the changes will increase certainty and reduce legal challenges. Again, Governor Freudenthal: One of the points of justification for the polig is the potential to reduce the number of challenges and protests and, ultimately, the amount of litigation emanating from these objections. With rational players, this expectation and rationale makes sense. In reality, though, the new technical and procedural reviews merely offer more opportunities for challenge. Even the most perfect review will be challenged by someone or some group— to assume otherwise is simply naive given the realities of the citizen suit provisions...and the ever present 'not in my backyard'interests. • Every step of the federal development process has opportunity for citizen input, but that hasn't stopped 100% of lease sales,Resource Management Plans (RMP), and most natural gas and oil development projects from being challenged legally. Recent examples are the Utah RMPs,with over seven years of community and public input; and the Roan Plateau RMP which had unprecedented cooperation with the Colorado Division of Wildlife,Department of Natural Resources,counties and the public, and resulted in the most protective phased-development plan in history. In both cases, extensive legal challenges resulted. Details on the Proposed Changes Several Additional Layers of Analysis • Despite the announcement, specific policies have not been formalized, and an "Energy Reform Team" led by Assistant Secretary Wilma Lewis will review additional aspects of the onshore program. IPAMS stands ready to mobilize the expertise of 260,000 employees in the Intermountain West as input to the review process,including petroleum engineers,geologists,landmen, environmental consultants, and other professionals with actual expertise in natural gas and oil development. • Since Interior has released very little information on the changes,it is difficult to analyze the full impact of the policy changes. From the scant information released, these changes will add years to the already lengthy process of developing energy on public lands. • Because of the myriad delays already inherent in federal leasing,it often takes several years and several lease sales until companies can put together sufficient leaseholds to begin exploration and development work. Interior's reforms will add a minimum of three years to the process from nomination to lease sale for any given parcel,creating further delays and more uncertainty for companies trying to develop American energy. • The changes will mean a lower percentage of leased acreage will be in a producing status. Industry is often criticized for only developing on 27% of leased acreage,but that statistic doesn't account for acreage where background permitting and environmental work is ongoing. • Under the current onshore system,environmental analysis is conducted at the resource management planning,leasing, and project stages. The public already has the opportunity to comment and participate at each stage. In addition, companies must conduct cultural and wildlife surveys,and comply with thousands of federal, state and county environmental regulations. IPAMS Position Paper—Interior's Proposed Changes to the Onshore Natural Gas &Oil Program January 2010 Page 3 of 3 • Despite all these environmental protections, Interior is proposing several additional layers of analysis— Master Leasing and Development Plans (MLDP),additional"interdisciplinary team"review at the leasing stage,another environmental review document,and an additional mitigation measures document. • The duplicative analysis would attempt to identify the impacts of development before any exploratory work is done. The site-specific analysis required in the MLDP is speculative, since it's impossible to know the impact of development before exploratory work reveals if there are quantities of natural gas or oil available,how many wells would be necessary,and whether market,infrastructure,technical and other factors indicate development is worthwhile. Extraordinary Circumstances Review Added to Statutory Categorical Exclusions Processing • Under the Energy Policy Act of 2005,Congress directed BLM to use categorical exclusions (CX) under Section 390 to encourage energy development when one of five criteria are met. CXs eliminate redundant environmental analysis and enable companies to minimize surface impacts. DOI's announced policy to severely limit the use of categorical exclusions by requiring"extraordinary circumstances" review is illegal. • DOI cannot pick and choose which laws to follow. Congress,including then Senators Barack Obama and Ken Salazar,mandated the use of CXs where the environmental impact is minimal or where environmental analysis has already been completed;it did not provide Interior with discretion in their use. The law clearly mandates the use of CXs when the criteria are met. Unissued Leases • Secretary Salazar's policy announcement did not address the$100 million worth of unissued leases that Interior continues to hold in a non-productive capacity. • It appears that Interior may be attempting to apply new policies to leases, some of which date back to 2003, that were legitimately won in prior sales conducted according to policies compliant with the Mineral Leasing Act. Retroactive application of policies is clearly contrary to well-established law, and seriously calls into question the good faith of the government. • No other bidding system, from eBay to a livestock or art auction, allows a seller to withdraw goods from a sale after someone has fairly won the bidding process. Interior's actions shatter the integrity of the leasing system,and have dampened future interest in federal leases. Public Lands Statistics • Intermountain West producers provide 27% of American natural gas while occupying only 0.07% of federal lands. • Compared to the first year of the Clinton Administration, the Obama Administration has issued 1,934 fewer leases and 1,146,949 fewer acres in the Intermountain West, 32% and 46%reductions respectively. • The Obama Administration leased fewer onshore acres in 2009 than any other year on record. • The US Treasury took in a more than ten times the leasing revenue in 2008 than in 2009,$10 billion compared to $931 million. Position Paper IPAMS Interior's Proposed Fee and Royalty Rate Increases February 2010 At a time when the Obama administration should be embracing policies to increase employment, stimulate the economy,and increase production of American dean energy,the Department of the Interior(DOI) continues to propose policies that increase uncertainty and put at risk jobs and economic development tied to the production of natural gas and oil in the West. In addition, the President's FY 2011 budget includes new fees on the natural gas and oil industry,along with royalty rate increases. Coupled with $36.5 billion in additional taxes on industry, these new fees will disproportionately impact the small businesses that produce 82% of America's natural gas and 68% of the oil. The increased costs will remove capital from the development and production of American energy and result in further job loses. • Industry already more than pays for the administration of the federal onshore natural gas and oil program by returning$46 for every dollar spent. When income and other taxes are factored in, companies return$123 for every dollar spent administering the program. Few other government programs garner such a high direct return. Industry already more than pays for the leasing, permitting,inspections, environmental enforcement,and all other aspects of the onshore program. • Despite the fact that the natural gas and oil industry is the second largest source of revenue for the US Treasury after the federal income tax, the Obama Administration is proposing further punitive tax increases, and an increased royalty rate. • Operating on federal lands is already much more time-consuming and costly compared to operating on private lands. The sum total of all the negative proposals from DOI and the increases in fees and taxes will be a decrease in production on federal lands, a reduction of jobs that result from the productive use of public lands,and a decrease in the production of energy owned by all Americans. • 27% of America's natural gas is produced in the Intermountain West,more than half of which comes from federal lands. The APD fee and other policies that discourage natural gas and oil development on federal lands block production of American energy owned by all citizens, and threaten American jobs, government revenue, and economic development. • Short-sighted efforts to increase costs could actually result in less revenue from the onshore program as operators are further discouraged from developing American energy on public lands. The case study of Alberta is illustrative. In 2008, the province increased the maximum royalty rate for natural gas production from 35% to 50%. o Operators now pay$165 in royalties before they show$100 in profit.' o Alberta experienced a 42% drop in rig count and an 8%reduction in gas production between 2008 and 2009 o Alberta is now experiencing its first budget deficit in 15 years and recent reports show a net loss of oil and gas royalties totaling$2 billion since 2008. I Energy Navigator Study,Boyd Russell, http://wuw.enerunnavigat orcorn/indev.php%mact=News,cntnr01 derait0&cntntOlarticleid-49&cntnt(lonpid=15&utr nil)I derailtemplate=news&cnrnrOl rerun-n(3=24 TPAMS Position Paper—Interior Fee and Royalty Rate Increases February 2010 Page 2 of 3 Inspection Fees • The President's budget directs the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to collect inspection fees: o $150 for each lease with no wells but with surface use, disturbance or reclamation o $300 for each lease with one to ten active or inactive wells o $750 for each lease with eleven to fifty active or inactive wells o $1,500 for each lease with more than fifty active or inactive wells • The administration of this fee would be extremely cumbersome for BLM. The DOI Inspector General (IG) found that BLM already has data and systems difficulties,which would hinder the efficiency of these fees.2 • Operators already more than pay for inspections by paying royalties,rents,and bonuses for leases. Non-Producing Acreage Fee • The President's budget includes a proposal to assess a$4 fee on non-producing federal acreage on federal lands. • Such a fee would de-incentivize industry,and does not take into account all the preparatory work done on a lease before it goes into production, such as geophysical exploration,environmental analyses, permitting,wildlife and cultural resource surveying, and numerous other activities necessary before a well is drilled. All the regulations and analysis that the government requires on federal leases often take more than five years to complete. In addition, the government routinely holds up projects for bureaucratic reasons,and legal challenges from environmental groups further delay projects. • It is inequitable to charge companies a non-producing fee when,in many cases, the government is the entity holding up diligent development of federal leases. The fee will significantly increase the cost of developing on federal lands,making less capital available for producing American energy and creating jobs. The situation has become even worse with the additional delays imposed on companies by Interior under Secretary Salazar. • The DOI IG report,which resulted from a Government Accountability Office October 2008 study recommending that DOI conduct further analysis, already addressed why punitive fees on non- producing acreage will do nothing to enhance production. D. The report cautioned that mandating production on federal leases or increasing lease fees would not enhance production,but could de-incentivize industry. ➢ The DOI IG found that because of severe data integrity problems, they cannot say with any certainty how many leases are producing. The oft-repeated statistic that 60% of leases are not producing is not backed by any credible data. ➢ Inconsistencies between MMS and BLM mean that leases identified by BLM as producing may be reported as non-producing by MMS,and vice versa. 2 Oil and Gas Production on Federal Leases:No Simple Answer,U.S.Department of the Interior,Office of Inspector General,Royalty Initiatives Group,February 27,2009. IPAMS Position Paper—Interior Fee and Royalty Rate Increases February 2010 Page 3 of 3 Royalty Rate Increase • The President's budget calls for rule making to increase the onshore royalty rate for natural gas and oil. Currently set at 12.5%, the rate provides an excellent return to taxpayers. • Administration officials often compare the federal rate to states such as Texas which have a higher royalty rate in some instances. The comparison does not take into account the fact that these states have a regulatory and permitting environment that otherwise encourages production. For example, permitting is done within an average of nineteen days in Texas,versus several months, and in some cases over a year for federal permits. Environmental analyses that take several years and cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars on federal lands are not required by these states. Increasing the royalty rate for federal lands,which are already extremely expensive to develop because of the regulatory burden,would become prohibitively expensive with a higher royalty rate. • Comparison of the onshore rate to offshore royalty rates is also misleading. The reserves found on onshore federal lands are significantly different from the conventional reserves found offshore, such as in the Gulf of Mexico. Unconventional reserves found on public lands in the Intermountain West are less productive and more expensive to develop,and the onshore 12.5%royalty rate reflects that difference. Producers assume 100%of the risk and expense for developing these unconventional resources with no guarantee of any return on investment whatsoever,while providing a huge rate of return to the taxpayer. Application for Permit to Drill (APD) Fees • The APD fee was first enacted just two years ago during a closed-door attempt to plug holes in the last administration's budget. Until then,it was understood that industry already more than paid for permits. • Congress increased the APD fee for FY2010 from$4,000 to $6,500 in order to offset a lower funding appropriation for the BLM Natural Gas and Oil Management Program. This 62% tax increase was arbitrary,given that companies already more than pay for the administrative processing of APDs,as well as more than 46 times the cost of the entire onshore program. • BLM collects the APD fee regardless of whether or not the permit is issued. The money goes into the general treasury,and is not applied to more efficient processing or to on-the-ground environmental protection at the field office where it is collected. • BLM collecting an APD fee is akin to the IRS charging individual taxpayers a large fee for filing their income tax returns. • The fee is especially egregious given BLM's slow APD processing times. While obtaining an approved APD on a federal lease has always been a long, time-consuming and expensive process,recent additional bureaucratic delays have resulted in particularly slow permitting times. Many permits take over a year to process, despite a specific 30 day deadline mandated by Congress in the Energy Policy Act of 2005. The long delays in obtaining permits, combined with the fee, further increase the expense of developing American energy on public lands. Hello